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Unknown C/M On Turkish Ottoman Copper

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This coin was purchased in a bulk lot. I have deduced that the coin itself is KM 701 Turkish Ottoman, 20 Para of AH1277//4 or 1843. The metal should be copper, although I haven't tested it.

The intriguing part for me is the countermark. It seems to be a swirl with numerals inside. However, I have not been able to identify the countermark at all. I don't even know if the numerals are 10 or 65.

Hopefully someone will be able to help. Thanks in advance!
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It might be a private counterstamp. In the Krause notes for 20th century Saudi Arabia's counterstamped series, it says the government counterstamps were to "break moneychanger's monopoly on small change".
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After pondering the stamp some more, I have a couple more observations:

The curved stroke running across the stamp looks like the Arabic letter "Th", or a similarly shaped letter, like "B" or "T".

They definitely look like numbers below the "Th". I can read "315". One might assume it's the date "1315", which would be 1897/8 AD.

I did some searching on Zeno.ru for countermarked Ottoman coins, and found this one very similar to yours, with Arabic letter "B" and the numbers "315" beneath. The experts there say the "B" is short for the Arabic word for "devalued", "315" is indeed the date 1315, and the counterstamp was done in the Dardanelles-Gallipoli region of Turkey, to indicate the coin had a reduced face value.
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Sap, you are downright amazing.

Thank you very much for your efforts in puzzling out this counterstamp! I'd even gone through the Ottoman section at Zeno and missed this one. That isn't too surprising though, as I tend to get distracted and go off on tangents.

Maybe now that I know what I'm looking at, I can scratch up some more information about this coin and it's devaluation. :D
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