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Moxking - I enjoy your grading opinions where you give us a technical grade and an eye-appeal grade on a 1-10 basis.
I am wondering, could you share with us a coin that you consider a 10/10 in the eye-appeal category?
I'd love to see what it looks like.
Thanks! Paul Bulgerin
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Thanks! That is a beauty!
Paul Bulgerin
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Bedrock of the Community
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I wonder what the highest grade is that he's given to, say, a non-proof pre-1920 regular issue?
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I think the eye appeal should depend on the issue and date/mint as well. For example, one of my specialties is Seated Liberty coinage. A nice original 1855-S Quarter is very scarce and should receive a higher eye appeal rating than say a similar looking 1857 Seated quarter where you can obtain many more examples. Obviously they will never look like that Kennedy but, for the issue and grade, the eye appeal should be based on the issue's own merits. At least that's the way I look at it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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As twotonevf35 reminded a little while ago, eye appeal also has a continuum from, in his case 1-5, within each grade based on several characteristics. Those characteristics can be both objective and subjective which makes consistent ordinal grading difficult because people have different preferences.
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Rest in Peace
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Hey you all. You saw the recent Kennedy I gave the 10. I can probably root out some heritage coins that I thought were 10. If I'm doing my job on the subjective eye appeal about 60% should be between 4-6, which is where most coins fall. Coin Frog had it right for the scarcity of older coins that receive a high grade and a high eye appeal. I need to write out my own definitions which are most closely associated with the old photo grade, and that really hasn't changed much, except for Morgan dollars. Eye Appeal, although subjective can be very particularly determined. The grade or rarity of the coin should not influence eye appeal. If you know 90% of the particular Seated quarter date are usually in the 3-5 range, then a 6 stands out. There is no reason to adjust the eye appeal for rarity or technical grade.
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Rest in Peace
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Also, I should receive the last coin in a set I wanted to complete. All are 8 or 9 eye appeal. Ill post them once I have the last coin to photograph.
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Quote: Also, I should receive the last coin in a set I wanted to complete. All are 8 or 9 eye appeal. Ill post them once I have the last coin to photograph. 
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I appreciate mox's consistent effort to define the eye appeal factor, but it's simply a subjective opinion in the end, albeit from an experienced collector. I often agree with his score, but frequently not. The grading threads might be more interesting if we used mox's rating as a springboard for further discussion. 
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Good thread because I also love Moxkings posts here and have wondered the same thing.
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Any type of grading on a normal/Gaussian curve is going to seem harsh, especially when the top 3% are 6/10 on eye appeal
Technical grading Fr2-MS63/4 is more objective than subjective
Any 'eye appeal' grading is going to be way more subjective than objective, but I agree as Moxking stated (paraphrasing), there are objective elements in considering subjective eye appeal. It is an exercise in futility to argue with someone who likes darker toned coins vs. lighter toned coins.
The bottom line -- which I like to see spice up a thread on a condition rare coin from time to time -- is when someone who specializes in that series grades a coin in $$$Dollar$$$
This is what PCGS ultimately does in assigning a grade to which they will be liable financially - and frustrating to see them reward cleaned coins with higher grades and downgrade original original surfaces which are more darkly toned. (Referring to circulated coins PO1-XF45)
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 with Coinfrog. When I post in the grading forum, I just post a grade and maybe a comment about the coin. I am always interested to see moxking's eye appeal score, but in the end eye appeal is subjective and technical grading is objective.
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Got to agree with Frog, eye appeal is personal and will differ with each persons idea of what looks good.
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