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Should I email cuds-on-coins with pics of this 1862 cent? I couldn't find it on his site. Please excuse my dumb question, but is it a Cud, a rim Cud, or a Retained Cud? Thanks for your opinions in advance!  *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
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Bedrock of the Community
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I never knew there was a separate web site for Cuds on coins. Guess nothing odd about that. Contact them. Maybe you'll get an award. 
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Quote:is it a Cud, a rim Cud, or a Retained Cud? Here is the our definition of " Cud" from the CCF Glossary on the left of your screen: Quote:cud An area of a coin struck by a die that has a complete break across part of its surface. A Cud may be either a Retained Cud, where the faulty piece of the die is still in place, or a full Cud, where the piece of the die has fallen away. Retained Cuds usually have dentil detail if on the edge, while full Cuds do not. Your coin has a pretty rough texture, but I think that it is worth reaching out to the cuds-on-coins website to see about that Retained Cud.
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Yay! Thank you so much for the replies. I will contact them now!
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's a super-huge Retained Cud. Cuds are, by definition, located on the rim -- the same process, when it occurs inside the rims, is more properly referred to as a die chip. These are not common by any means, and I would definitely reach out to the website mentioned above as well as Indian cent Varieties to see if they can add your coin -- you will then have a "plate" coin, neat, eh? :)
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This is actually called something else, can't access error-ref.com but this is die that has collapsed within itself, a Cud is a portion that has broken completely off leaving a cavity to be filled by moving metal. This still has the design on it, NOT A Cud! Die Collapse, sure of it! http://www.error-ref.com/die-subsidence/
Edited by Crazyb0 04/23/2018 10:26 pm
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For what it's worth, here's one that I found and sold to a dealer for $50. I expect that he'd retail it for $60-$75. It has a comparable Cud, but the condition is obviously much better.  
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Very nice! 
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Formerly nancyc
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Sorry to go a bit off topic, couldn't work out where else to post this.  I just let Cuds on Coins know that I spotted an error in the title of one of their listings of Indian Head cent; 1859 - 1909. CU-1c- 1962-03R which of course should be 1862.
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Nevol, that was nice to let them know!
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Formerly nancyc
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Quote: Nevol, that was nice to let them know! I rec'd this message from them today. Quote: Hi Nancy, nice catch!! That one has been out there for 4 years.
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