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I keep my coins in mostly cardboard 2x2s with a few in mylar and am thinking of going with mylar exclusively, because the presence of staples kind of scares me. The first idea is how I could arrange the coins. I use a binder with 20 pocket pages foe 2x2s. Instead of writing the info on a piece of paper and putting it in the other side of the flip where it hides behind the coin and can't be read unless you take it out, why not put the coin in one pocket of the page and the paper with the info about the coin in the next pocket. 2 coins and 2 info cards per row of the page.   The other idea I had was for the coin supply companies. This might be a stupid idea, and maybe someone's thought of it already. But I'm going to give it anyway. Why not make mylar flips that can basically seal or zip lock shut. That would keep a lot (although admittedly not all) of the air out and protect the coins from dust. They could also make those 20 pocket coin pages have pockets that also seal or zip lock shut, offering additional protection. Of course in order for the pages to have room to seal or zip shut they would have to be maybe a quarter to have inch taller than the flip itself. Anyway, what do you guys think?  Edited by rbjr85
04/26/2018 4:49 pm
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You answered your own question, size and effectiveness, plus it would be more a specialty item, and there are many competeing for that slot right now and all not doing big business! What I've taken to doing, especially now I'm moving into the ancients and error coins, where a lot of information needs to be with the coin, attributions, provenance ref #s...I take the flips use one pocket for the coin and one for the paper. then put the coin side in the binder slot with the "flap" on the outside. This way I can view the coin and read BOTH sides of the info card without removing the coin. Only problem, must use NEW page, keeps slot tight,and hav eo be careful all the flaps are pused down enough when turning pages.
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I'm just trying to think of something that offers some of the protection of Air-Tites and hard plastic snap lock holders, such as Intercept Shield 2x2s, but more affordable, less bulky and easier to store in albums. Sort of a middle ground compromise between the quality of protection offered by those kind of holders and the convenience, storage flexibility and affordability of regular mylar flips.
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I mean isn't zip lock basically just snap lock for softer plastics? Mylar isn't as soft as a zip lock bag, but if they can put snap locking technology in hard plastic holders and zip locking technology in plastic storage bags, they could certainly come up with something for mylar flips.
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Q/ How much air/dust circulate/collect in a flip that has been folded, and inserted in a pocket page ... that itself is inside of a binder?
Because impurities/humidity might have entered with the coin/medal, I'd just as soon have a tiny opening, but that's me.
Q/ Are you thinking that the seal might contain vertigris et al?
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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04/26/2018 7:00 pm
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Self seal no staple 2x2's have been around for several decades. It's all I've used for the past 20. They are advertised in every issue of the Numismatist.
Prevents toning and keeps red copper red.
The only drawback is they are about 21 cents each. But my coins protection is certainly worth that.
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Q/ How much air/dust circulate/collect in a flip that has been folded, and inserted in a pocket page ... that itself is inside of a binder? I think I understand what you're saying. You're basically asking why bother with what I'm thinking when the flips and pages already offer enough protection, right? Well, why not offer even more protection. After all, if air or dust already have enough trouble getting into these holders as they are, imagine how much more protected the coins would be from air or dust if the flips and corresponding pages were sealable. Quote:
Q/ Are you thinking that the seal might contain vertigris et al? I'm not sure why it should, if made with PVC free and archival safe materials. Quote:
In regards to your first idea , if you insert a coin in one slot then the paper writing in the next you'll be using a lot of pages unnecessarily . The fix : Flat clinch staples That's still ten coins per page. My binder has 100 pages. That's enough for 1,000 coins in the configuration I suggested. I do want to buy a sturdier binder however. I own a flat clinch stapler. I just like the one size fits all convenience of mylar flips. Plus coins are a lot easier to remove from them if I ever need to do so. No need to perspire in nervous anxiety, worrying about scratching the coin during the removal process, as I very slowly and meticulously remove staples. |
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No , your misunderstanding . Forget about skipping a space for your paper writing . 2X2 cardboard holder in every slot ,write what ever you want on it , use your flat clinch staples and Wizard sells a staple remover that works great . Never damaged a coin .  However if you insist on mylar flips then so be it ! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Remember that someday you may have thousands of coins. You'll need lots of room doing it your way.
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@T-BOP. The Reason I like mylar flips is because I never have to worry about not having the right size. Let's say I buy a Barber half dollar from a dealer, but it's housed in a flip that contains PVC, and I only have small cent and dime sized flips left. What do I do then? I sometimes forget that I run out of things. |
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@just carl. At the unintentional risk of sounding overly firm or arrogant; No, I won't. The reason I say I won't is because I have a limited budget and I'm very picky about the coins I do buy. I buy no more than a few coins a year, and I haven't bought a single coin since July 2015. At the rate I'm going, it'll take me decades to fill this album. I do however have coins from what I call my "Quantity over quality" younger days of collecting. I keep them because they serve me as a reminder of what a collection can look like if you try to rush things.
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04/27/2018 8:05 pm
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@T-BOP. The Reason I like mylar flips is because I never have to worry about not having the right size. I'm in the same boat. I'm not great about keeping track of that kind of thing, so I rarely know what sizes of 2x2 I actually have. That's true now- I know I'm missing several sizes, but I'm not sure which. For another thing, I have a lot of ancients, so the 2x2s that fit American coins well are usually a pretty loose fit. Even many of my American coins are in the wrong size of 2x2. At the moment, my collection is in a mixture of 2x2s and mylar, but I plan on switching entirely to the latter for the reasons above as well as the ease of removal, should that be necessary. I'm working on cataloging my collection, something I should have done a long time ago, and that includes weighing each piece (at least the ancients). Edited by Numisma
04/28/2018 3:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Keep flips and 2x2's on hand, and use the flips for temporary storage.
I carefully use scissors when I want to remove a coin from a 2x2. Very quick.
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Bedrock of the Community
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At a flea market near me there used to be a seller that sold lots of coins. They were all in large bins and mostly just raw. However, he also had many coins in 2x2 flips and stapled shut. All of the flips were the dollar sizes. Like socks, one size fits all. For really small coins he would sometimes put two or three coins in one flip. He never wrote on the flips what the coins were. He said why bother. If you know what the coins are, you don't need something written on the cardboard saying what it is.
And yes it does sound like your collection is not going to grow massively. However, you never know. You could someday end up with lots and lots of coins.
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