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New Member
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Ok I know there are some 1988 1999 and 2000 Wide AM Lincoln Cent. I was searching and found someone who claimed to have a 1987 wide A M cent. I was looking at some of my change this am and noticed I have a no mint mark 1987 Lincoln Cent with a wide A M. Has anyone heard of this before and if so can you give me some detail about it thanks. I,ll get picture up in a while battery is dead on the camera. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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All cents are Wide AM until 1992. They introduced the Close AM in 1993, but starting in 1994 they brought back the Wide AM die for proof sets. There are some scarce to rare transitional types prior to 1992, but none dealing with the spacing between the A and M. The (extremely rare) 1992 Close AM cents are transitional varieties; someone accidentally put Close AM dies in the presses before they were done with the 1992 obverse. The 1998-2000 Wide AM would best be described as mules; business dies were mistakenly made from the proof master die. In theory, any date from 1994-2000 could be a WAM, but there are no confirmed examples outside of the three year window. This could happen because Philadelphia made San Francisco's dies until sometime in the early or mid 2000s. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Don't bother with images. The missing mint mark is telling your it is from Philadelphia. The Wide AM is on all memorial cents until 1993, then that year, all business strike and proof cents had Close AM cents. All memorial cents that are business strike cents should be Close AM. Proofs on memorial cents souls be wide AMs. The 1998-2000 years were the year variety coins made from the wrong-correct reverses on business strike coins and proof cents.   |
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New Member
 United States
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If that is so then I have a 1983 Lincoln Cent that is a Close AM and in very decent shinny shape. I know the year is special so I have it put aside on my desk here. Would that be something that seems out of the ordinary? I just checked a 1998 no mint mark with a Close AM so that would be an S Lincoln Cent? Edited by Max695
04/27/2018 10:01 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It would be impossible. The design was not even created at that point. Sometimes coins are altered. A different obverse or reverse can be created from two different coins.
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New Member
United States
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I,m telling you on the 1983 the A is just barely missing the M and thie letters and numbers on this coin are impeccable and not at all marred or distorted in any way. The only imperfection I can see on this coin is what appears to be a die crack mark running behind the fourth pillar from the left. The stairs are even visible
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New Member
United States
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Edited by Max695
04/27/2018 10:52 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Even on the big DDR are the devices like a Close AM:  Note how the ,M, is centered? That makes it a Wide AM. On the Close AM, the MIs to the left.  Being off center to the left is what makes it a Close AM. ( closer to the A) Not centered between the A&M. |
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United States
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Thanks for the photo Yes thye FG is close to the edge as in photo #2 Tried to crop the reverse for the apparent die break. I,ll try agin  |
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New Member
United States
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So this (Poor condition) 1998 Close AM is normal? yes I see the difference now as the FG is farther away on the Close AM  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The image you have is OK. It is a wide normal AM. The Close AM is not centered. Close to the A & far from the E. your coin is centered and normal. Here is a 1992 with the normal Wide AM and the 1992 with the close RDV-007 reverse.  Note the Close AM also shows another letter of centered. Also the FG locations are different. (This Wide AM has the RDV-006) |
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New Member
United States
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Thanks for the help Coop. Always appreciated
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That's what I do. Help others to see what I see in an image. Glad the last image worked. I don't think I had anything else to share. But if I didn't, I'd keep trying.
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Posted 04/27/2018 09:41 am
Here is a crop of the die break mark 
