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Valued Member
United States
484 Posts |
Hey All. I was wondering if I have any recourse. I sold a 1984 Doubled Die on ebay to a person in California. I was the original submitter of this coin to PCGS and can proove that. He notified me that the coin was missing from the package and that he had opened a missing item report with the Post Office. Nothing came of it and I refunded him his money. This occurred in May of 2017. Just the other day I went and plugged in the PCGS number into the verification checker to see if it had showed up in any auctions and to my surprise it last sold in January of 2018 in a Stacks Bower Auction. I can show I submitted the coin, I have the payment and refund information from ebay and PayPal and was wondering if there is anything I can do to possibly get the coin back. Any help would be appreciated.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
94367 Posts |
I'm no lawyer, but I would take a first step by contacting Stacks Bowers and advising them just like you have here. I'll bet they get back to you right away with useful advice from their standpoint.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8715 Posts |
 I would contact Stacks Bowers.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3540 Posts |
Agreed. Start with S & B.
If they do not get back in touch with you, contact eBay/PAYPAL and the post office.
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Valued Member
 United States
484 Posts |
Thanks Guys! Will do tomorrow.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
94367 Posts |
Good luck and keep us informed!
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Rest in Peace
10197 Posts |
Yes, it will be quite interesting to find out who Stacks was selling this for and the trail backward, just may go to your original buyer....hmmm?
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
663 Posts |
I would imagine that you are still the legitimate owner of this item since the sale did not go through and you provided a full refund.
I assume that you have also retained the paper trail regarding your sale, the claim and subsequent sale reversal and refund as they may be necessary to assert your ownership.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6498 Posts |
Man. good luck. Personally I think you have a strong case.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17836 Posts |
Did you file a police report or a report with the post office reporting the theft that included the slab number? The refund from ebay is probably not enough proof. If you don't have reports it's going to be difficult to prove that the coin was stolen and that it still belongs to you.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3540 Posts |
Any response from auction company? Contact USPS yet?
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Valued Member
 United States
484 Posts |
I have had contact with Stacks Bower and send them the information to prove ownership and fraud. They are going to get back to me soon. Nothing from USPS.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3540 Posts |
Excellent.
By chance, have they divulged the entity that placed the cent with them for auction?
By chance, they could be the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc owner since the coin was stolen from you.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wouldn't expect them to divulge the identity of the seller so quickly or easily.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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