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Unknown Anglo Saxon Coin?

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Hi Guys

I believe this to be an Anglo Saxon Styca. I am very new to medieval and am struggling to read and undersatnd the legend. Any help in identifying it would be very much appreciated. Thanks
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 Posted 05/10/2018  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you have seems to be an irregular Northumbrian styca combining two reverses with the names of moneyers Earduulf and Monne. On the left image, the inscription is reasonably clear, +EARDVVLF (retrograde). In addition to the moneyer, there was a king Earduulf but his name would end with R for 'Rex' (+EARDVVLFR). The inscription on the other side, +MONNE is a bit difficult but if you compare the images below, it should make sense. These are composite images from two different coins. In the first photo, I oriented them in the same position as your photo. In the second, both are oriented so that the legend begins at 12 o'clock. I can't be 100% certain on the Monne reading but I think it's a good possibility. As an irregular, your coin should date late in the series, perhaps 850-860+. (Images courtesy Classical Numismatic Group)
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Wow - Kushanshah thank you very much. That is brilliant. Very much appreciated.
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Hi Kushanshah I have managed to get a better picture of the other side. The EARDUULF side is 100% as you said but definitely think this says something else now the image is clearer. Any ideas or thoughts. Thanks
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I still see a semi-literate attempt at +MONNE. A bit more degraded than the example but very similar.
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I definitely bow to your superior knowledge as I am literally just starting out, and have to admit this is no where near as easy as standard milled bronze, but I am struggling to see +MONNE. I can see an R at the opposite side of the flan to the Cross, or maybe just seeing things. I drew out the first side and can get it quite easily. But just can't see where to start with the other side.
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For what it's worth, to me if I read counterclockwise from the cross, I can maybe see:
D similar to the one in EARDWLF
V
R as you are also seeing
M with the top off flan?
F similar to the one in EARDWLF

Don't know if those letters make any sense.

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Thanks tdziemia, it initially means very little to me but will keep plodding away at it. Kushanshah maybe right about MONNE but I need a little more convincing. I would never have found out what the first side read if he hadn't of been on the ball. Kind regards Brian
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I'm not suggesting that it legibly reads MONNE. Rather, I'm suggesting that an illiterate irregular moneyer may have used a reverse of Monne as his prototype. The inscription is pretty much jibberish but there are interesting similarities.
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I have an Eanred bronze styca, that darkened somewhat over the decades, until I realized what was happening.
Keep this one in an acid free environment.
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