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1982 P Quarter Error On Obverse

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 Posted 05/15/2018  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chavez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. Hopefully he has some good things to say about it and what should be done next if there is some value to it. I know, don't count your chickens before their hatched. Lol
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 Posted 05/15/2018  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on other, similar specimens I've examined (both quarters and dimes), this would be a case of rim-restricted design duplication. Here's a Coin World column on one of those quarters (sans photos): https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...ake.all.html And here's the entry in error-ref.com (scroll down): http://www.error-ref.com/?s=rim-res...+duplication

This type of Machine Doubling occurs when the hammer die bounces up, shifts laterally, and lands lightly on the newly-formed design rim. In the case of the quarters and dimes, the hammer die may also be sliding through the design rim (not much of a bounce).

The weakness and doubling of QUARTER DOLLAR is puzzling, as this effect is not associated with RRDD. The doubling is either Machine Doubling or grease-mediated radial smear. The fadeout is most likely due to the presence of "grease" on the die, as the obverse design across from the weak letters is well-struck.
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 Posted 05/15/2018  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chavez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mr. Diamond. Thanks for your review on this coin. Is this an oddball coin that should be looked into deeper? Is it gradable? I'm new to the Coin World. Please give me your opinion and others on his forum too. Thanks
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 Posted 05/15/2018  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep a record of this thread with the coin. I doubt that there's anyone at any grading company that can tell you more about it than Mike Diamond already has.



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 Posted 05/15/2018  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The sad part is that the graders don't consider Machine Doubling or Struck Through Grease as an issue. Together it made a great error. Does the edge have reeds all the way around or just affected on one area?

Added the information to my educational files:
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1982-P-Quarter-Error-On-Obverse
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 Posted 05/15/2018  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chavez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop. Please see page one one this thread. I have some pics of the spacing around the affected and non affected area of the coin.
I hope that answers your question.
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 Posted 05/15/2018  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chavez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop. Thanks for using my quarter for your educational files. I'm really happy it made you decide to add it to your work.

Where do I go to try and figure out the worth of this error coin? Are there other folks who can get me some additional info if I wish to sell?

Thanks
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 Posted 05/15/2018  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice and interesting find!
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 Posted 05/15/2018  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I made an image for the edge, but wan't sure if it was that way all around or just that one area.
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Looking at the tops of the devices on LIBERTY showing how close the die was to the rim is interesting. 1982 shows the closest spread of the master die that year. 1983 shows a wider area.
1982-P-Quarter-Error-On-Obverse
So like the 1968 cent master hub was replaced in 1969, this must have happened on the 1983 master hub?
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 Posted 05/15/2018  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's very interesting Coop! Another new thing I've learned today!
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 Posted 05/15/2018  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Me to. I was wondering why the design looked different on the 1983 compared with the 1982 quarters.
1982-P-Quarter-Error-On-Obverse
That explains how the hop and the strike would make the die bounce to the rim area on this error. That makes sense now.
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The 1983 Quarter design is so much different. The letters are very fat and big in shape. Is it a worn Master Die issue?
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That maybe the case. I don't want to run ahead on this. But it looks like it.
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 Posted 05/15/2018  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chavez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, If you want me to, I can get some more spacing on the edges if you think it would be worth doing so via high def pics from microscope at work?
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