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Is a coin just one die strike in total or is the mint mark,liberty, ect struck seperatly I notice that the lettering is different on liberty than united state and if so how many times is it differently struck and what parts any help would be appreciated !
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 Posted 06/21/2008  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A normal circulation coin is only struck once. A proof coin is carefully struck more than once, with the same die.

Banknotes can be printed in multiple stages, but a coin has to be struck "all at once" with the complete design from a single pair of dies. Otherwise, the designs on the second pair of dies would completely flatten and obliterate what had been placed there by the first striking.

Elaborate edges (eg on the President $1 coins) can be a separate stage, as this has no effect on the obverse and reverse.
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 Posted 06/21/2008  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffreyice1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SAP: How do you explain this?

https://goccf.com/t/31605

It looks like it has an effect and these are S proofs....

Just trying to get answers to why!
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As coppercoins said in that other thread, they're rim Cuds. A tiny piece breaks off the edge of a die, causing a raised blob of metal to appear there on coins subsequently struck by those dies.

I have no idea if it's a common effect on US proof coins. I'd have imagined not, since proofs are supposed to be highest quality. But CC says they're "normal". If that's normal, maybe the US Mint needs to lift it's quality control standards.

Of course, you could always return them to the US Mint as "defective merchandise", if you don't like them...

But it doesn't have anything to do with the topic of this thread.
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I'm sorry for the thread intrusion, but I was basing my comments on what you said.

Elaborate edges (eg on the President $1 coins) can be a separate stage, as this has no effect on the obverse and reverse.

I'm trying to get a bigger picture on this as we speak. I'm not saying that what the others have said is wrong but that you might have a point! and that a closer look may be in order!

PS there is no raised blob. this is a cut!

PSS to Hollywood: Its one stike and one strike only! Unless there is a problem with the machine. Proofs get attation more then normal.

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Hi guys I was just asking because of the 1995 w ASE error, the coins/die must have gotten past quality control and the lettering liberty and united states of america on all coins are different thanks for the knowledge and have a great week !
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I have just found 2 1970-s Lincoln pennys with obverse double die on them. But Most of the doubling is on the date. Are these just as rare as having all the letters and date doubled?
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