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1921 Half Penny With Clashed Denticles

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I didn't realize I had this coin until I went to Farnbycoin's photo gallery and saw his example of this coin.
When I fished this out of a dealer's "bargain bin", I thought it was simply wear or damage.
This coin resembles a US Indian Head cent where the denticle pattern was struck in the center of the reverse.
Some speculate the hammer die fell out onto the reverse die and left the pattern, while others think the dies are too hard to leave this mark,
and speculate that the die was intentionally forced into the reverse. Whatever the cause may be with this Half penny, it's a very interesting variety!


1921-Half-Penny-With-Clashed-Denticles

Closeup detail of the clash:
1921-Half-Penny-With-Clashed-Denticles
Edited by KurtS
06/23/2008 02:57 am
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 Posted 06/23/2008  02:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LukeM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting, I have never seen this before.
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 Posted 06/23/2008  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, I'm glad you edited that extra pic in: I couldn't see what you were deswcribing in the earlier pics.
I've never heard that class of error discussed before.
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 Posted 06/23/2008  06:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could see it in the previous pics, only just though
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In the Aust Pre-Dec Coin Varieties Book, it's described as:
S Mint, Denticle pattern over alf in half A12C Rare. So Kurt, you've done it again. Good one! (The A12C is just the picture number in the book)
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Thanks for the info Nancy! It must be random luck--I'll take any.
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 Posted 06/23/2008  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farnbycoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Some speculate the hammer die fell out onto the reverse die and left the pattern, while others think the dies are too hard to leave this mark,
and speculate that the die was intentionally forced into the reverse.

I would go with option A (hammer die fell), as it makes further sense when considering this affect is found on up to 4 other positions on the reverse of the 21 half pennies.
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That's very interesting! It sounds like a problem year for the press.

Update: a collector on another forum did an overlay showing how the clash might align to denticles on the obverse die:

1921-Half-Penny-With-Clashed-Denticles
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06/24/2008 1:11 pm
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1921 ALF Coins always have a small dash in the inner circle at about 210 degrees or 7 o'clock.


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As this thread is 13 yrs old, all links to pictures are broken.
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Why bring up an old post 13 years old?
The original OP hasn't been on this site since 2010
and there aren't even pictures to refer to.
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