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Double Denomination, Broadstruck And More (Lmc)

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P here while back I bought some pennies from my favorite coin dealer. From time to time if he has error coins I will buy those from him too for a fair price. Since last time he handed me a penny and told me it was broadstruck so I took it home put it in my little collection box to look at on a rainy day. Well that rainy day came and I believe this is much more than I broadstruck Lincoln Cent. I can see different denominations,there is a date oo 1975 and a date of 1980 and I think I can see a 55. Lincoln's head is right side up, upside down and Crossways. This is a very busy Lincoln Cent! It is about the size of a nickel. What are the chances of another one like this?
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 Posted 06/06/2018  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coppergold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL someone got creative looks like to me
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It's not an error. It's 100 percent Post Strike Damage (happened after it left the U.S. Mint). It's a Squeeze Job. Two or 3 coins were put on top of each other and then smacked with a hammer. I hope you didn't pay anything for this, because it's just damage and not an error coin. It was intentionally done on purpose. http://www.error-ref.com/squeeze-jo...-garage-job/
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The mirrored devices tell that story.
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What are the chances of another one like this?


@SL12, sorry, but yes I agree with the others that a regular US cent was just doctored to look like this. Therefore, the chances are pretty good.

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I read up on that quite a bit, and finally went on hertiage auction and seen one just like it but different date.I read the broadstruck, caped die look to it is next to impossible to duplicate. I am adding a couple more pictures including the back side. I am very interested in you guys opinions on it. Like I said it's almost to size of a nickel. The backside is flattened but with a distinctive pattern and with a small clip on one side. Thank you guys!
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 Posted 06/07/2018  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Safetylady12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I think maybe I have figured this one out? It's a Brockridge Strike. From the links that was shared on here, If it was put in a vise you would be able to see tool marks on the coin and the edge of at least one side. My coin has no tool marks on either side. For a Brockridge stroke it will have a mirror image. Plus there are at least 2 places on the coin where Lincoln is facing to the right like it's supposed to be for at least two strikes, the 1980 strikes(faint behind the 1975). From what I have read a capped die will do this very thing to cause a brockridge stroke... Some may disagree with me but I have spent MANY hours researching this coin and am welcome to the opinions of how this could be duplicated this with the spread and partial cap without causing damage to the edges. Anyone? No one has responded to my last post from last night either... :(
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@safetylady12, yes sorry for the radio silence. You seem to have made up your mind and so we are at a bit of an impasse. You have asked for our opinions and we have provided them. It isn't the news that you want to hear and so we differ. It happens occasionally and that is totally fine. If you would like to pursue this further, you could submit this to a TPG for authentication. I'm honestly not sure which one(s) will authenticate errors, but you should definitely stick with the the top tier of TPGs.

Specific to your question about tool marks, a strap of leather could be interposed between the coin and the vice surface to prevent scratches and "give" a little so that the edge could curl. As far as seeing the edge of another coin impressed into yours, this looks to be the case on your second pic from about 12 to 4 o'clock. Again--just my opinion. I hope you are cool with us disagreeing--everyone once in a while the wisdom of the crowds at CCF gets it wrong and maybe this is one of those cases.
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Not an error, PMD. Look at the first image on the link E&V posted: http://www.error-ref.com/squeeze-jo...-garage-job/ It's nearly identical.
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As everyone has said & explained,It was damaged after it left the mint. 100% Damage, nothing more.It's worth is one cent if the local convenience store will take it
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It's a Brockridge Strike.


Well, the entire internet has never heard of a Brockridge strike.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22...=firefox-b-1


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From what I have read a capped die will do this very thing to cause a brockridge stroke...


There's absolutely zero chance a planchet capped on a die is going to hang around five years. You're googling these things apparently but not actually reading what they are and how they happen. Did the mint workers pry the 1975 coin off the die, save it, then put it back on the 1980 die, likely thousands of dies later? I think you know the answer to that.


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If it was put in a vise you would be able to see tool marks on the coin and the edge of at least one side. My coin has no tool marks on either side.


They put pieces of leather on either side, or sandwich 4 coins. The outer coins have the tool marks, the inner ones are what you have.

Trust what people are telling you. This coin is not a legitimate error. We've seen hundreds like this over the years.

If you refuse to believe, fork out the dough for PCGS or NGC and get it certified. If you're positive it's real, it's a no brainer.
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It's PMD. Not a mint error.

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 Posted 06/07/2018  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Safetylady12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not doubting the opinions at all. I most definitely didn't mean to offend no one by asking to explain. I have been coming to this site for many years, I rarely post but mainly to read forums in reference to something I have ran across.
From time to time I have seen you guys second guess youselves and call out each other if you think they are wrong as well. I wouldn't call my last post a "you have your mind made up" but more of a I moved on to read another artical written by professionals after reading the links and hearing the sound of crickets cherping when I asked for more information. It's wasn't that I was doubting your response,it was to gain knowledge. Same thing with this lost post, I was still asking for opinions to knowledge on how it is deuplicated. Anyway I think all my questions have been answered load and clear, all aspects of this coin is PMD. Thank you for your help and have a good night.
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I know this is an old post, but I have read many just like this one. Just like most people, I am pressed for time, and sometimes give short answers when asked a question. AND, like most people I come here to learn and to gain knowledge. MAYBE, its not the answer that wasn't accepted, MAYBE it was the deliverance of that answer. COLD, FLAT and WITHOUT EXPLANATION as to why. I don't post very often, but I read and read and read some more until I understand what I am looking at. Sometimes maybe because you are not addressing one of my posts, I don't take it to heart. BUT YOUR DELIVERANCE WITHOUT EXPLANATION IS SOME WHAT QUESTIONABLE. Just my opinion but I thought this was where we come to learn. If a person is asking a question then they deserve the whole answer is simple form, an answer is not always a simple YES or NO. We all learn from every ones opinion. We may not use the information given at the time, but it will be remembered and most likely used at a later date. I love the fact that on some resent posts, I can be lead in the right direction, and even though some times its not right on the money of what I am looking for, I do remember what I read and can come right back to review the post. But hopefully not this post. have a great day, and be kind to one another. Take pride that someone wants to be taught by the Greats, and teach them, it only takes a second to spread a lifetime of knowledge and excitement of learning.
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Two different year dates, years apart. Just an altered coin.
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