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PMD Or 1984 LMC OH Wellian Conundrum

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 Posted 06/10/2018  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongnumber to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still no explanation for the upper area. I did take a plastic flossing pick & semi lifted the bottom edge. It's clean lookng copper color with green corrosion. (Not bad at all) on both sides of the piece. After 34 years I'd expect it be rotted to oblivion if that were zinc rot. We've all seen it lol
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 Posted 06/10/2018  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good find! It's exactly what Mike Diamond said it is.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongnumber to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After 10 days plus in acetone, here we are....copper under the bottom plating. Bust detail on the (foil) ,missIng in between date area ,then continues. Upper layer appears to overlap , but not by much. Still no zinc rot.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! It looks excellent now! It really improved the coin a lot. Very nice find and error coin!
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 Posted 06/23/2018  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a keeper, I'd love to find one like that.
Keep in a 2 x 2 for sure or even an air tight container to keep the corrosion away.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A couple of cuts with a razor blade and leave in the wild for a time and you can make one yourself. PSD.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay then so it is not a struck through? This is its own copper coating lifting up?
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 Posted 06/23/2018  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct. If it was a struck through foil, the zinc would still be covered. Its not, so that is the normal copper plating coming off the coin.
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Oh. So the Copper plating is coming off, from someone prying it off with a sharp tool?
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I can't explain the top. Picture 1 & 4 clearly shows there is copper under said foil. No exposed zinc. If I rip off the bottom piece, its clean matte looking copper. & the 4 & detail below goes with it. I lifted it & looked carefully. Remember the channel you see is not indented. Both the top & bottom overlap what appears to be a cut.
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 Posted 06/24/2018  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just going by what I saw. I'll take your word for it.
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 Posted 06/24/2018  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's possible some of the plating started cracking before the coin even emerged from the plating bath. In that way, you could have plating deposited over an exposed area of zinc core. That's the only explanation I can come up with for your observation. I see no evidence of human interference in the formation of any of these cracks.
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It's possible some of the plating started cracking before the coin even emerged from the plating bath. In that way, you could have plating deposited over an exposed area of zinc core.
This makes great sense.. Not only would that allow the mentioned Cu plating over zinc to occur but would also allow thickening of the lift.. There's no way a typical plating thickness of copper would still be holding solid and hanging around after all this time; it would have peeled / lifted off and/or broken away in pieces and bits long ago..

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