Is This A 1983 S (Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC ) Doubled Die Reverse / DDR ?

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Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:16 pm * Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! * Hi, I'm kinda new to looking for errors and collecting ( about a month) but I'm devoting alot of time in doing because I really thoroughly enjoy it. It has never interested me in my 35 years but one day I started to read about it. I'm not looking to get rich quick looking for errors or anything its just the hunt and find thrills me. I have found a couple DDR AND DDO in circulation so far and some small dates and mint errors ( My boss gave me a huge bag of pennies and I haven't came close to being a fifth of the way through. Yesterday I remembered I bought a S proof set of the year 1983 a couple years ago for my kids to have when they get older. So I took it out of the safe and had a look. Ive never looked at mint coins before so the coin's doubling has me confused and wanted some people with alot more experience than me have a look.Its probably Machine Doubling but I had to ask. I appreciate looking at the coin and giving me your opinion. Thank you Report this Post to the Staff

Coppergold Pillar of the Community United States 939 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:19 pm Need much closer pictures of the letters. Report this Post to the Staff
Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:22 pm Ill try by camera looses focus when too close Edited by Yellzaboff 06/19/2018 8:29 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:31 pm I magnified the image, does that help? Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCents Pillar of the Community United States 3656 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:40 pm I just seeing Machine Doubling - sorry - maybe others will pick up on something else. Forgot my manners - Edited by CoinCents 06/19/2018 8:41 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:42 pm The first thing to do when wondering if it is or not is to check a couple references to see if any similar are(have been) attributed. For 83S proofs NONE are listed at coppercoins.com or varietyvista.com, the go to sources for hub doublings. Now this don't mean you don't have an unattributed one, but most likely it will be Machine Doubling exhibiting the shelf-like appearance and a reduction in overall size of the devices. My favorite explanation especially with proofs are that since they are struck twice in production, this just gives two times the chance for MD! Edited by Crazyb0 06/19/2018 8:46 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:46 pm I did check, and found none also... Report this Post to the Staff
Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:49 pm But sometimes there is a first... look how long it took people to find some other DDR and DDO lol. I appreciate the tip though Report this Post to the Staff
Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 8:53 pm To my eye the double looks rounded more than Ive seen before with Machine Doubling, but the again I'm used to circulation coins, and assume this is the reason I'm having trouble.. To me it looks like the true doubling picture in your example.. But I'm also new at this lol This one is tough for me lol Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 75007 Posts	Posted 06/19/2018 9:13 pm It's Machine Doubling. The devices are reduced in size and is shelflike in appearance. http://www.error-ref.com/machine-doubling/ Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/20/2018 07:40 am Thank yall Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 189767 Posts	Posted 06/20/2018 11:08 am to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/20/2018 3:44 pm On the proof coins, they are struck twice on cents. So it is more possible for Machine Doubling can happen. One thing that happens is called Flat Field doubling: Then the classic Machine Doubling that reduces the size of the devices: See how the flattening make the affected area the same color? Also Machine Doubling is not consistant. It can vary from one device to the next on the same word: But hub doubling will be raised from the surface or widening the devices: Note the color change show that the contour of the device was not reduced, but enlarged: Countdown 48 Report this Post to the Staff
Yellzaboff Valued Member United States 189 Posts	Posted 06/20/2018 5:05 pm Thank you for that, I really appreciate it Report this Post to the Staff
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