1912/1913 Wheat Cents: Are They Matte Proof Coins How Can Your Tell?

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coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 8:06 pm Countdown 21 Edited by coop 06/21/2018 8:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff

T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 8:32 pm I'll say the 12 is a Matte Proof . The 13 is not . I believe the graininess of the 1912 is a character of a Matte Proof along with the wired edge . Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 8:38 pm Lets wait for a few more comments. Countdown 19 Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 8:49 pm The 1913 is for sure. I can make out the die scratch from D in GOD to Abe's head making it a die 2 pairing. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 8:53 pm Ok, how about the 1912? One for it being a matte proof. One for 1913 being a matte proof. But what is the sure way to tell if they are matte proof coins if you didn't have markers? Countdown 18 Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 8:56 pm Without die markers the rims can be a good indicator. The '12 doesn't look like a matte proof based on the rim to the fields not being square enough to me. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 9:00 pm Ding ding ding. That is correct: Countdown 16 Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74138 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 9:04 pm Very interesting and educational thread Coop! I enjoyed reading the comments on this one. Thank you for sharing it! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 9:06 pm Does PCGS agree with those coins above? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 9:10 pm Why is one coin worth more than the other two? Countdown 15 Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 9:22 pm It's certainly not because the mintage number is about half of the other 2. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 9:28 pm The answer it is because they were less of the 1909 VDB Matte proof cents. I've heard as much as 10X difference in prices. (depending on the coins themselves of course. But I didn't realize they had some with the VDB and some without VDB. So you want need to know that if you are shopping for them. Countdown 15 Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 9:45 pm Oh well , so much for my knowledge on Matte Proofs . Thanks coop for the interesting thread . Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/21/2018 9:50 pm After seeing the 1912 the other day on the forum, I check to see if PCGS had any DDO cents. They didn't, but enoyed the view of the 1912. It is a MS-66. But I wondered how the grade got that high with the mark on the nine. Countdown 11 Edited by coop 06/21/2018 9:51 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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