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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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Very nice 4 groat coin. I have a 1 groat for today, Tykocin mint:
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16th century
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1/5 Philips daalder (15) 66
ruler: Philips II (1555-1598)
mint: Antwerp (1562-1593)
Literature: Van Gelder / Hoc 212-1
DOMINUS MIHI ADIUTOR: the lord is my helper
PHS.D.G.HISP.<s>Z</s>.REX.DUX.BR.
PHILIPPUS DEI GRATIA HISPANIARUM <s>Z</s> REX DUX BARBANTIA
Philips II, by the grace of God, king of Spain, duke of Brabant
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1566 -- Grand Duchy of Lithuania, 2 denars:
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The below is perhaps, by some standards, a nice coin - but with it comes one of my biggest "the one that got away" stories.


...It happened one day, many years ago, that as I was finishing my coin-shopping trip to the Izmaylovo Vernisage, I came across a bin full of unfamiliar old-looking coins, all of the same type.

Some of them were significantly chipped, and some were intact; the seller told me that the chipped ones were 150 rubles per coin, and the intact ones 250 rubles.
(I could not give you the dollar amounts, as I no longer recall which year it was. But either amount was definitely well below $10.)

As the trip was almost finished, I had almost ran out of money. I do not recall, now, whether I had just enough, or not quite enough, money to get an intact piece.
I do recall that I ended up buying the cheaper chipped one.

...When I got home, I realized how rare the type was, and got sad that I missed such an opportunity. So I rushed to the place again the next time I could. And then the next time after that.
I never saw that bin again; to this day I'm not sure whether I just sucked so much at searching, arrived at the wrong time, or the bin sold out that quickly.

I guess at least I still have the chipped coin...

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Sweden, Eric XIV, 1/2 öre 1566.
MB# 105, Numista 31345.
Heavily chipped, and significantly patinated (obscuring some parts of the photos).
Actually much darker than the pics make it look like (blame the flash).


My next date is 1556 - as it happens, a non-Lithuanian coin from the reign of Sigismund II of Poland (though I do not believe it actually mentions his name anywhere).

I have also apparently missed a chance to post my rather neat 1568 coin. I hope that I'll manage to post it somewhere eventually.
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My next date is 1556 - as it happens, a non-Lithuanian coin from the reign of Sigismund II of Poland


Gdansk denar?
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Yes. How'd you guess?

(On second thought, I think I might actually have posted it on CCF before.)
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Half groschen Poland/Lithuania 1565
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English sixpence - 1565:
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Here is a Soldo from the Italian House of Savoy dated AD 1565:


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Wow! Three nice and very different coins already.
Today I have same coin as @giljan, I suspect this is the beginning of a parade of these for the next two weeks, even back to about 1547 they are quite accessible.

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Gdansk denar?
Yes. How'd you guess?

I'm trying to have one type from each mint for each Polish king(and OFEY from 1507 to 1688). Hence yesterday's coin from Tykocin, (a bit obscure as the mint only operated a few years). For Gdansk, only the denar is easily affordable, so I just picked up a 1555.
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Italy
Venice
1 gazzette
ND 1565
sanctus marcus venetus
uistitiam diligite
Reference: Gamberini di Scarfèa
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1565 -- Grand Duchy of Lithuania -- 1/2 groat:
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1564 English sixpence:
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Half groschen Poland/Lithuania 1564

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1564 trojak (3 groschen/groat) of SIgismund II, Vilnius mint.
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Under Sigismund II, the Gdansk mint continued the tradition of portraits on trojaks, but Vilnius adopted a different design with the monogram obverse and the Lithuanian knight reverse.
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