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I'm going through my old collections and am starting with this one (Sorry in advance, for some reason, my phone isn't focusing in on the whole picture - ugh). So back in the 80's, my dad and I started a large coin collection. Despite years of going to different countries and visiting coin dealers, I'm still questioning everything from what they are and authenticity of others. While I sort through the books, here's one that was purchased in the early 80's, and "dealer authenticated" What do you think? It is non-magnetic, is 39 mm, and weighs in at 25.49.    |
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Wow never seen one quite rare, although like a Chinese coin counterfeits are plenty. No expert! Nor do I collect them yet. Looks good though, gxseries will be able to make a informed opinion on the coin.
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I have a fake example of an auto dollar, and it's pretty darn good. This example is reasonably deceptive as well.
I have seen far more fakes of these than genuine coins.
Centrifugal pressure cast and die stuck seem to be the most common methods used to fake them.
Pictured coin is a fake as well. To pick only one small design detail:
A line that defines the rear of the body near the spare tire is absent.
Appears to be pressure die cast.
Looking for minor design detail differences of the automobile is the easiest way to pick fakes of these, using pictures alone.
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Bedrock of the Community
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That seems spot on, sel.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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United States
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Being a provincial issue some variance is to be expected, that is part of what makes coins such as this so tricky. Also the rear of the car appears weakly struck. This particular example actually looks genuine to me.
Edited by Numismat
06/23/2018 02:54 am
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Canada
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Regardless of whether this coin is considered to be authentic or not this link as to its history and composition might be of interest:-
www.chinesecoins.com/1928-auto-dollar/
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Austria
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I do not buy the story (new user offering his first coin from an unconfirmed source, which he does not nothing about, but costs thousands of dollars if authentic).
Nice try :-)
Edited by coinworldtv
06/25/2018 4:18 pm
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Welcome to the Forum.
@afewmorecents
What makes you say it's genuine?
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"I do not buy the story (new user offering his first coin from an unconfirmed source, which he does not nothing about, but costs thousands of dollars if authentic).
Nice try :-)"
While I agree that stories such as this should be taken with a sense of skepticism, there have been plenty of times where they turned out to be legitimate.
Personally I didn't usually bother to read the story, I just look at the coin :)
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Personally I didn't usually bother to read the story, I just look at the coin :) Probably the best approach for an unbiased assessment. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Well, I saw the coin too, which is obviously not good.
I tried to give a hint for the less experienced collectors, who are being clearly targeted here.
The coin is just struck, not made in the 80s and not authentic at all.
Still, they did a good job on some of the details, these Chinese high-quality copies are popping up everywhere.
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06/26/2018 04:28 am
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I'm reasonably certain this coin is actually authentic. The overall look and subtle signs of how it was made matches other examples that were authenticated. Closely compare all around the tips of the dentils on the auto side with this one http://www.coinsnumismatics.com/201...ce-1928.html or this one https://www.chinesecoins.com/wp-con...-Reverse.jpg or any in auction archives or NGC website. The areas of flat roughness near the rim by incomplete dentils and the extra "dashes" of material between the tops of complete ones is routinely seen on genuine examples. The dull gray color is also a common trait. The circumstances behind how this type was struck means matching exact details alone isn't always reliable. However, matching the manufacturing process is a good indicator when combined with details. The OP coin also appears to have been struck from the same die as the authenticated one in the first link in my post. See the cracks going from top of right-most character above the auto to the rim. Edited by Numismat
06/26/2018 06:42 am
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