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Could This Coin Be Cleopatra VII?

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0.97 g.
11 - 12 mm.


cheers!


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 Posted 06/24/2018  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bigger pics might help, especially the top one.

Safe to assume you buy your AE's in large, unattributed lots?
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ok ill work on that tomm. ty
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 Posted 06/25/2018  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinnewbie3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If this is Cleopatra VII...would it be worth 36 Euros? Thats about 43 dollars US. Reverse is worn to heck and I dont even know if this is supposed to be her
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A class of small coins of Paphos with a female head on one side and double cornuacopiae on the other were attributed to Cleopatra VII in a 2004 book by dealer Matt Kreuzer. His conclusions have been panned by academics but a few dealers continue to hype the coins as issues of Cleopatra at inflated prices. Here are links to both the book (free) and the reaction:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/nu...?key=Kreuzer
http://numismatics.org/magazine/cypruswinter05/
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So they are indeed ancient greek but no proof they are Cleopatra VII?

I had a gut feeling about this.

I thought I saw wildwinds have a single ( not a double) cornuacopiae reverse

Did wildwinds get those wrong ?
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Actually wildwinds Does have a double cornuacopiae reverse

Ptolemaic Egypt, Cleopatra VII, AE 80-Drachm. Diademed and draped bust of Cleopatra VII right / KLEOPATRAS BASILISSHS, eagle standing left on thunderbolt, double cornucopiae before. BMC 4-5, Svoronos 1871.
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They should all be double, a widely used symbol in Egypt, though not always obvious. I would hazard a guess that it represents the combined bounty of Upper and Lower Egypt but I really don't know. Since cornucopiae (plural cornuacopiae) is Latin, we should probably use the Greek dikeras instead. The coins may well be an issue of a Ptolemaic mint at Paphos but the portrait is most likely Arsinoë III rather than Cleopatra VII.
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Cheers, Kush.
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