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Unidendifed Coin With A Cow Or A Horse

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 Posted 06/27/2018  03:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add harun to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi

can you help me to identify this coin? what is the origin?
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 Posted 06/27/2018  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I were a gambling man I'd say horse.

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Copper coins from the Indian state of Indore often have a bull on them, but I cannot find a match for this coin.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/in...state-1.html

Maybe there is another state with a similar design.
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It's medieval Islamic. Muslim theocracies are usually pretty adamant against figural or animal depictions, but the Abbasid caliphate was pretty liberal. Two of their vassal states, the Zangid and Artuqid, went so far as to put humans or animals on most of their coinage (all bronze, as the Abbasids controlled silver and gold). I'm not having much luck pinning it down (I can't read Arabic, go figure) but it's a start.
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 Posted 06/27/2018  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to everybody for your reply.

in fact I got the coin in a place which isnot far from the territory where Artuqids ruled, probably Finn235 is right. I will keep reading about Artuqids coins.

however below linked drachms also have some similar figures. it looks like the figure is "cow suckling calf". but there is no calf on my coin :) and I have some figures looks like arabic.

https://www.google.ru/search?q=ILLY...Yu-Zp1-GJiM:

https://www.google.ru/search?newwin...91r3SSWC1XM:
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Begtimurids, Sayf al-Din Begtimur, 1183-1194, AE fals or dirham. The obverse is variously described as a horse or cow, suckling a colt or calf, or being attacked by a wolf.
https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=1481
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Kushanshah thank you very much :) you did a great job!

do you think it is ancient or fake?
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It's genuine. Condition isn't the best but it is apparently the only coin type of the Begtimurids and rare.
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Kushanshah thanks for your valuable comments :)

i have one more coin waiting for identification. can you help with this?

http://goccf.com/t/322492
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