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First post in a while, was recently on vacation for 2 weeks. So in my infinite boredom since coming back, I came across this on ebay. On the reverse, near the O mint mark, there seems to be 2 raised lines. What could've caused these?  |
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United States
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Looks like two areas of damage that pushed up the metal on the coin. Could be die gouges, not sure.  Edited by SilverDollar2017
06/27/2018 1:56 pm
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United States
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can you post a link to the listing?
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United States
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The font looks odd, and too far away from the rim? Possible fake?
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United States
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Yes, I was thinking that. Obverse pics and link to the listing would help determine if this is fake. Large raised bumps are common on fakes.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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A link would indeed be helpful.
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Highly suspicious coin. The softness of all the text at 12 and 6 versus the sharpness at 3 and 9.  |
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United States
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This looks like an 1841 O WB 101, WB 8 variety half dollar. Identified by the die cracks on the right and between the AL in Half. I agree with SilverDollar on the pushed up metal damage. Do you have a picture of the obverse?
Edited by Heymikep
06/27/2018 3:22 pm
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If it was fake I wouldn't have bothered posting it, and strike weakness is common on these, so that's why it's soft.
Thanks for the info, I was wondering what could've caused it and I got my answer. Thank you. It's a real nice coin besides the damage, truly a shame.
What's the difference between this raised metal damage, and die gouges?
Edited by Ploopy
06/27/2018 4:07 pm
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Die gouges would be on the die used to strike the coin. Pushed up metal caused by damage is PMD (post mint damage), and not part of the manufacturing process at the Mint. Thanks Heymikep for posting a link. After looking closely at both the obverse and reverse of the coin, I think that it is real, and the damage on the reverse is PMD caused by damage. The raised part is the pushed up metal, caused by a foreign object coming into contact with the coin and "displacing" the metal. |
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Same ping tone and accurate weight as genuine?
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Thank you for the explanation. Since it's PMD, where is the accompanying damage that caused the raised lines? All I see are just the raised lines themselves. |
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Quote:Since it's PMD, where is the accompanying damage that caused the raised lines? All I see are just the raised lines themselves. Very similar to the PMD on this piece. I was told a very sharp tool was the cause, the raised lines are the result of the metal being displaced.  |
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Been watching this post to see if anyone has come up with an answer. In my opinion it is PMD caused by pushed up metal. Two reasons for saying this. When looking at an "error", I try to think not of how it was done, but could it possibly been done at the mint. In this case about the only way I can think of it being done at the mint is by a die gouge. If it was a die gouge there would be many more minted and would have been discovered by now as a variety. Also if you look at the picture that I enlarged, it looks like there are marks showing where the metal has been pushed. As I say, this is only my observation.  |
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