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Please Help Me With A 1890 CC Morgan - Fake Or Real?

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 Posted 07/09/2018  1:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bort0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all, I am new here because I am about to buy a 1890 CC Morgan dollar in pretty good condition. But I'm not quite sure if that's a real one or just a counterfeit coin.
Here are the pics that I've got from the seller.

Your help is very appreciated.

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Real or fake?
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 Posted 07/09/2018  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterfeit. Rim is poorly done, the eagle's left wing merges with the field, surfaces and colors look off, rim on reverse from 9 to 12 o'clock is weak while other details are bold. I also see what looks like casting evidence in the hair, but would need to be seen closer to confirm. Everything about this coin screams counterfeit, so I'd stay away.
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 Posted 07/09/2018  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake, rim and denticles wrong for starters. Color is off,looks worked over for wear. You're looking at a $200-500 USD coin, if it's less than $100 USD it is the "too good to be true" axiom, meaning it isn't true! Run for the next exit, quickly!
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 Posted 07/09/2018  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll threepete that. (new word)
The date is in wrong location and wrong style.
Counterfeit!

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Wow, thanks alot guys for the quick and detailed informations. Now that you pointed out the rim I can clearly see it myself. And the eagles wing...
I've already been a little suspicious because of the weak part of the rim, while the other parts are not that "worn". Also the "color" looks a little too good for me, so that brought me to you guys here in the first place.

The coin is indeed very cheap, the price would be only about 35,- Euros. I had also no idea that it would be 200 to 500!! dollars...

Thank you all for saving me from a counterfeit!
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 Posted 07/09/2018  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coconutjoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake at the first site. Along with reasons above, the patina has that fake look
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I'll threepete that. (new word)


Then I will sixpete.

And now since you were wise enough to ask, you will likely be able to tell the next fake you find also
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 Posted 07/09/2018  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if this is an ebay coin, please post the auction umber so we can dispose of it..
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 Posted 07/10/2018  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bort0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not, it is a local flea market site in Austria. I've already told the seller that it's a fake coin, so he could point it out in the description, but got no answer so far. So maybe he did know himself...
If I get no answer from him today, I will report it to the site admins.
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If I think I have a suspect coin, especially for a U.S. silver Dollar, I check for weight, and compare ping tone against a genuine coin.

You may wish to do that for yourself, but I agree with the rest of us, in that all of those comments above that support the opinion of 'fake'.

I think poor quality pressure cast.
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