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Heavy Weight Caracalla Denarius

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I received this nicely toned Caracalla denarius (RIC, #266) today what weighs in at a whopping 4.36 grams. I don't think I've seen a later denarius that is this heavy.

The style looks good to me and it appears to have been struck on good silver, so I do believe it is an official mint issue.

Out of curiosity I went through the several hundred later Caracalla denarius (with similar bearded bust) on VCoins to check weights.

Coins ranged from a low of 1.62, 1.81 and 1.86 grams and went all the way up to 3.89, 3.95 and one coin that weighs 4.27, about the same as mine.

I know planchet weights varied, but this one is not that far from antoninianus weight. I just thought I'd share.
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I also thought I'd share this photo of the edge of the coin. It's a bit unusual.


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Nice looking coin, Paul, and I hope the Roman collectors think it's kosher. However I did spot the reverse below from a 4.6gm coin in the fake reports, described as a fantasy combination of a Severus Alexander obverse with a Caracalla (RIC 266) reverse. The pic from Forum's reports is terrible, but it does seem the lettering is quite similar. Do you think the reverse on yours is a match?

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Bob,

Thanks for the link. If it is not real, that would account for the heavy weight, similar to the Severus Alexander fantasy piece.

I'll see what others say and, if necessary, contact the seller. If it's not "kosher" the seller offers a 14 day return . . and I didn't pay that much for it.
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I would have fallen for it easy enough
I don't think I need any more evidence than this as to why I am scared away by silver
I am too prone to deception by a beautiful face

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The edge photo makes me wonder if it might be an electrotype?
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Bob has a good eye spotting die matches especially on fakes. His assessment is good enough for me.
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Paul, look at the N's in the obrverse legend. I have not seen such irregular N's on a genuine coin.
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