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I agree that is my favorite of the group. It had me stumped because of the letters looking more like "H's" but the reverse matches more with Huszar 118 and the size is about 10 mm which matches also with 118. The Huszar 117 would be closer to 13 mm and thinner.
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tell me why American collectors buy coins from the time of the Árpád dynasty? @gabi, while I have no where near the depth of collection of medieval Hungarian coins as @eddiediz, I too was attracted to those 16th Century Denars primarily to their availability and begin dated to a single year. With the availability of an English-language reference book (Frynas) to supplant Huszar, it is quite satisfying to collect these. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Nice!  Edited by Gabibacsi
08/16/2020 1:25 pm
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then I thought why not put together a collection of the entire run of the denar How close are you to this goal? You seem to have mostly been adding Arpad-era subvarieties lately, so I'm not sure if your lack of progress in later types is because you're no longer interested in them, or because you already have all the common ones. (Which reminds me - do you have any of the 18th century dates? IIRC they're all relatively rare.) |
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I have most of the 1500's and maybe a third of the 1600's,just a very few of the 170x's,but the 1100's are going to take a long time because of the many different designs and some of them have more than 400 sigla varieties.
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08/16/2020 4:29 pm
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@Eddie: All I can say is WOW!! What a super collection of Hungarian denars! You are certainly organized and have direction! I have a few of these myself, but kudos goes out to you for a very impressive collection! Edited by Finn70
08/16/2020 9:11 pm
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@Eddie I agree with Finn70, if you collect the rest, it will be a serious denar collection! Congratulations and good luck!
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1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 80,Rethy I-67,CAC Vol. II/18.2.1.1/a4.3/33. It has a sigla of 2 points on both sides of vertical cross bar near 6:00.  2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 91,Unger 40,Rethy I-75,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1/a4.2/18. It has a sigla of one point on both sides of crosses near 2:00 and 6:00.  3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 124,Unger 71,Rethy I-133,CAC Vol. II/19.10.1.1/a1.8/9. It has a sigla of one point to the right of the top of cross near 12:00.  4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC Vol. II/20.20.1.1/b1.1/28. It has a sigla of one wedge at the base of the cross at 12:00.  5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 164,Unger 86,Rethy I-153,CAC Vol. II/20.16.1.1/a1.10/11. It has a sigla of one point on bottom of crescent near 2:00.  6. 1205-35 Hungarian Denar under King Andreas II;Huszar 269,Unger 162.  7. 1512 K-G Hungarian Denar under King Wladislaus with an VNGAR?VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 811,Unger 646c,Pohl 253-4.  8. 1575 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Maximilian;Huszar 993,Unger 767a.  9. 1575 H-S Hungarian Denar under King Maximilian;Huszar 994,Unger 766b.  |
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I even understand that an Americans collects Mexican or German maybe French coin because there is a historical connection between America and the other countries, but I can't imagine why he collects coins from the house of Árpád.
Though American, I collect Poland because it is in my family ancestry, and Duchy of Lorraine and Duchy of Brabant because I lived briefly in the modern regions that used to be these places, and was interested in their history, even though they ceased to exist over 200 years ago. I would guess most of our ancient coin collectors do not feel they have strong ties to Greece, Rome or Persia. All kinds of reason why we collect the things we do! (maybe even enough reasons for its own thread). Edited by tdziemia
09/18/2020 10:24 pm
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In addition to these I will have 3 others on the world coins because of being after 1600. 1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c3.3/63. It has a sigla of one vertical line and 2 parallel horizontal lines to the right of the small cross near 2:00.  2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a2.10/15. It has a sigla of one small point inside of small crosses at 2:00 and 5:00.  3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC Vol. II/20.20.1.1/b1.3/30. It has a sigla of a wedge to the right of the top of the center vertical cross near 12:00.  4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 148,Unger 69,Rethy I-126,CAC Vol. II/20.6.1.1/b1.6/38. It has a sigla of a wedge to the inside of cross near 2:00 pointing toward the center of the coin.  5. 1235-70 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV. The older publications attribute this to Bela III,but the newer publications attribute it to Bela IV. This makes sense because of the type of double cross in the shield and the style of the letters in the legend. The CAC Vol. III just came out,but I need to order it and for the time being I have it as Huszar 69,Unger 101.  6. 1339-42 Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 497,Unger 394a.  |
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This is one from the last group of coins. I was waiting for the Volume III of the Catalogue of Arpadian Coinage to arrive. It is a 1235-70 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV;Huszar ;69,Unger 101,CAC Vol. III/22.10.1.1/0.1/1. Previously it was attributed to King Bela III,but the double cross and the style of the letters in the legend seem to fit better in this time period.  |
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@EddieDiz. I don't know anything about Hungarian denars, but this is a seriously awesome collection. Thanks for sharing it. Quote:
All kinds of reason why we collect the things we do! (maybe even enough reasons for its own thread).  It would be interesting to hear why other members collect what they do, @tdziemia. |
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1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c2.2/56. It has a sigla of one line perpendicular to the rim on both sides of small cross at 2:00.  2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/c2.4/58. It has a sigla of one line parallel to the rim on both sides of cross at 2:00.  3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 82,Unger 51,Rethy I-69,CAC Vol. II/18.3.1.1/c2.3/66. It has a sigla of one small line under each crescent near the top of the obverse.  4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/b1.17/54. It has a sigla of one small wedge pointing toward small horizontal cross bar near 3:00.  5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1/g1.3/44. It has a sigla of one small star in lower right quadrant under horizontal cross bar.  6. 1390-1427 Hungarian Denar under Sigismund of Luxembourgh with the 2 points over the shield as a mint mark;Huszar 576,Unger 449d,Pohl 117-43.  7. 1528 K-B Hungarian Denar under King Ferdinand I. It is a hybrid with points on both sides of the date on obverse and rosettes under the Madonna on reverse;Huszar 935,Unger 745a.  I have 2 others in the world coins because they are after 1600. Edited by EddieDiz
11/11/2020 1:26 pm
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I've been following your thread and have just flicked back through it!..... Wow what an amazing collection you've accrued, very impressive!.
Do you have a page or link to your collection?..I'd be very interested in viewing it. It's not my collecting area but I do like..firstly...The toning and colouration of the coins (Very appealing!) and Secondly the detail and slight differences in the reverse depictions...Must be a fun theme to collect!...
Thanks for sharing your passion......Paul
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