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Peace Dollar - Cleaning, Light Circulation, Or Some Kind Of Polishing Lines

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Does this Peace dollar look cleaned? Or are the small hairlines light circulation or some kind of polishing lines? I am specifically talking about the light marks on the observe to the right of the hair and to the left in front of Liberty's forehead. This coin is straight graded but looked questionable in my opinion so I wanted to ask the community because I am still trying to learn. Thanks!

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Peace-Dollar---Cleaning,-Light-Circulation,-Or-Some-Kind-Of-Polishing-Lines
Peace-Dollar---Cleaning,-Light-Circulation,-Or-Some-Kind-Of-Polishing-Lines
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looks nice. what about the other side? is it a 1934-S? pls post picture of other side.

a number of hairlines are acceptable before a details grade. this look acceptable to me from what I can see. of course everyone wishes they weren't there.
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The hairlines run onto the neck, so they are not die polishing lines. It looks clearly cleaned to me, not market acceptable. Is that an ICG slab?
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Surely not the old rattler slab of PCGS fame is it? That looks bargain basement...
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It's been cleaned and should receive a Details grade. Not surprised it straight graded as it looks like it's in a ICG slab.
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Surely not the old rattler slab of PCGS fame is it? That looks bargain basement...


It's ICG which are actually nice slabs, good sturdy plastic and well sealed.
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I keep seeing more coins in IGC slabs and I cringe when I see high grade sld's in them. A month ago there was a beautiful Seated dollar graded 63+ by ICG up for auction. The ICG slab was an immediate disqualifier for me. It ended up selling for ms-61 money.
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The ICG slab was an immediate disqualifier for me.


It shouldn't be. More people are using them because their grading is pretty on par with NGC standards and its a lot cheaper with a MUCH quicker turnaround time. They also do conservation for free and the guy who does it is one of the founders of NCS the NGC conservation arm.

They just don't advertise or go to every show because they don't have too. They're better than ANACS so if they isn't a disqualifer ICG shouldn't be either.

I wouldn't send them 5 figure coins but three figure coins absolutely especially generic things like Morgans and Peace dollars. Come to think of it I'll probably make a post later tonight to correct a lot of the misconceptions people have of them
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Come to think of it I'll probably make a post later tonight to correct a lot of the misconceptions people have of them




That would be a good read. Looking forward to it.
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I have some ICG slabs. They are nice slabs although they do not carry PCGS or NGC status.

I tend to examine coins more closely when in ICG slabs, and look for bargains.
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And yes, ANACS is also a disqualifier for 4 figure Seated dollars.

Edit: with the exception of coins in old white soapbox holders I should say.
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I consider ICG and ANACS to be equal in coin grading. They aren't as good as PCGS or NGC, but better than SEGS, PCI, or basement slabs.
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That would be a good read. Looking forward to it.


Just posted it in the TPG section
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This is in an ICG MS63 holder. I can't post more pics because I don't own the coin. Thanks for the confirmation that it is indeed cleaned. At best I thought those marks were from circulation which would put the coin at a 58 not a 63. Kind of sad when ICG can't even detect a cleaning properly.
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These pics are essentially identical if not so. How about showing us the surfaces from different angles?
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