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malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 07/02/2008 11:26 pm Hi, I have quite a few of what I believe are civil war tokens. I would just like to know a little information on them if possible. I think I read somewhere that each known token is assigned a number to identify it. If this is true can anyone tell me what numbers mine are? Any information at all would be really great. Also some of the coins I am posting seem to not be rotated properly on the other side. I took the photos of the side with the head then flipped it over (bottom side up just like other US coins) is this really common? thanks malissa Image: civilwar1side1.jpg 95.02 KB Image: civilwar1side2.jpg 95.09 KB Image: civilwar2side1.jpg 95.71 KB Image: civilwar2side2.jpg 95.34 KB Image: civilwar3side1.jpg 96.92 KB Image: civilwar3side2.jpg 97.99 KB Image: civilwar3side2again.jpg 99.96 KB Image: civilwar4side1.jpg 101.66 KB Image: civilwar4side2.jpg 86.28 KB Image: civilwar4side2again.jpg 97.6 KB Image: civilwar5side1.jpg 96.73 KB Image: civilwar5side2.jpg 97.02 KB Image: civilwar6side1.jpg 101.63 KB Image: civilwar6side2.jpg 89 KB Image: civilwar6side2again.jpg 90.53 KB Image: civilwar7side1.jpg 102 KB Image: civilwar7side2.jpg 99.6 KB Image: civilwar8side1.jpg 97.45 KB Image: civilwar8side1.jpg 97.45 KB Report this Post to the Staff

malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 07/04/2008 8:31 pm ok then! No information on here for civil war tokens. lol Report this Post to the Staff
GO Moderator United States 6563 Posts	Posted 07/04/2008 8:33 pm Give it some time. Most of these aren't cataloged well and the members that do have knowledge about these are organizing their findings as we speak....I think Report this Post to the Staff
kenny_1745 Valued Member United States 239 Posts	Posted 07/04/2008 8:37 pm I know very little about civil war tokens, but over 10,000 varieties are known to exist so finding the identifying number of your civil war tokens may not be very easy unless you have a book about them Report this Post to the Staff
kenny_1745 Valued Member United States 239 Posts	Posted 07/04/2008 8:40 pm Token #7 is not a civil war token. It is likely a Hard Times Token which were made between 1832-1844. I also think that some of the other tokens that you have pictured are actually store cards Report this Post to the Staff
malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 07/04/2008 8:48 pm Store cards? What does that mean? Report this Post to the Staff
kenny_1745 Valued Member United States 239 Posts	Posted 07/04/2008 10:18 pm They were tradesmen's tokens of the Civil War era. Store cards are actually one of the two groups of Civil War tokens. The other group is anonymously issued pieces with political or patriotic themes. You can find out more about Store Cards in The Fuld Text Catalogs which stores them by state, city, merchant, die combianation, and metal. Report this Post to the Staff
kenny_1745 Valued Member United States 239 Posts	Posted 07/04/2008 10:19 pm The tradesmen's tokens were issued by various firms to provide change and advertise the dealers' wares. They usually bore implied or explicit promises of redemption in goods or money. Report this Post to the Staff
malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 07/04/2008 10:35 pm Thats very interesting. Do they sell the fuld text catalogs in canada? I certainly hope so. I liked these simply because they are american like me, and makes me feel a little less far from home but now I am beginning to feel a strong curiosity about where and why they were made. Do the catalogs give that kind of information r basically just yes it is or no it isn't kind of info? thanks for all the replies so far Report this Post to the Staff
kenny_1745 Valued Member United States 239 Posts	Posted 07/05/2008 12:05 am I'm not sure where you're able to buy the Fuld Text Catalogs (or even if you can). You might want to try looking at the "Standard Catalog of United States Tokens." It covers tokens from 1700-1900. The Civil War tokens came into existence only because of the scarcity of government coins and they disappeared from circulation as soon as the public demand for small copper change was met in 1864. The tokens were struck by numerous individuals and the legal status of the tokens was uncertain. Report this Post to the Staff
Bilbo Pillar of the Community United States 812 Posts	Posted 07/05/2008 12:20 am The link below provides some general information about Fuld numbers for your 'patriotic' tokens. In most cases this won't tell you the exact Fuld number, but at least the range of numbers it would fall into. http://www.civilwartokens.com/patri...pe_list1.htm This second link is to some books sold by the Civil War Token Society. I assume some of these books can be acquired elsewhere. http://cwtsociety.com/books.html Report this Post to the Staff
Parklane64 Rest in Peace United States 2668 Posts	Posted 07/05/2008 6:08 pm By the power vested in me(not), I hereby appoint Kenny our expert on civil war tokens. Now, as soon as the mods get back from July fourth celebrations...... Report this Post to the Staff
pyrbob Rest in Peace United States 1943 Posts	Posted 07/06/2008 6:10 pm Malissa, I just looked in the sixth edition of Hard Times Tokens by Russ Rulau. Your token is listed on page 54 in the New York section. Kenny was right about your number seven. It is HT 218. It says year 1835 with a diameter of 28.5 mm in copper. It's rarity is R1 which is the most common. This 1996 book gives this token a value of $5 in VG, $15 in VF and $40 in EF. I don't have a civil war token book yet (I have tokens but no book). It is one of the many books on my list for my library. I hope this helps. Report this Post to the Staff
malissadawn Pillar of the Community Canada 1931 Posts	Posted 07/06/2008 6:46 pm thanks very much. Eventually I will know what they all are and what the rarities and things like that are but at least for now I just fond them reall interesting to look at. my favorite one is obviously a store card I think, I love how varied the things they had were: toys, fancy goods, fishing tackle and rare coins. lol Report this Post to the Staff
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