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There are likely multiple answers to this question, and it is somewhat vague, but here goes. What are some of the lowest cost gold (as in the metal not the color) ancient coins (say 200 AD or earlier) at least the size of a US dime, in fairly decent condition available, and approximate cost. Open to just about anything (except fakes of course).

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This will give you some idea. https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.as...signed=False

Ancient gold is expensive, even Byzantine solidus which a about the size of a dime is going to cost.

https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.as...signed=False

I've been collecting for a number of years and don't own any ancient gold, I prefer silver you can get more band for the buck.
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A dime sized pre-200 AD gold coin is going to weigh 8 grams; a Greek stater, Roman aureus, Kushan dinar, or Persian daric. Nearly all of them will cost upwards of $2,000. The affordable coins will be extremely tiny, highly debased, or both.

Some of the most affordable gold coins:

- Indian gold fanams; about 5-7mm and 0.3g, minted from the middle ages to modern times. These can be bought for as little as $20 or as much as $100.

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(That one is actually of Krishnaraja Wodeyar III, from the early 1800s, but fanams stretch back to about the 1200s.)

- Kidarite debased gold dinars. Nice large hefty coins about the size of a quarter, but only like 5-30% gold. Depending on the fineness and rarity, they can cost between about $50-200.
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(Durla Deva; I bought that one for $75, which is not typically repeatable.)

- Late Roman or Byzantine gold, which come in full, half, and third solidii (Solidus, semissis, tremissis). You can get solidii in nice condition for only about $300-500. Tremisses are widely available, and can be bought for only about $150.

- Indian medieval gold comes in a wide variety in several denominations. They are not popular, and you can get them pretty close to melt, in some cases.
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(Chandellas, Madanavarman 1/4 dinar; about 13mm but only cost $100)

-Islamic dinars are so common that typical bent/holed specimens only cost melt

- Lower grade/problem Greek electrum can be as cheap as $300 for a ~10mm coin

- Extremely early (pre-600 BC) Ionian electrum protocurrency is extremely tiny, but a 6-8mm coin will only run you about $200.

If none of those suit your fancy, an XF stater of Alexander the Great will set you back "only" $2,000!
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There's gold, and there's gold.
Those old regimes knew full well how to debase their most valuable metal!

You might consider an ancient British or French/Belgian celtic stater - around 18mm in diameter and 5-8 grams in weight.
The more debased gold examples might be around £300-500, whilst the more gold-rich ones go for £500-1000.
If you go for a rare one then double or triple the price. But then again they date from around 50 BC to 50 AD so you're buying a true rarity.

If you're after high gold content and a good price then look at Gallo-Belgic E staters.
They were used to pay local celtic mercenaries to fight the Romans, so there's some nice history behind them.

A particularly nice example of a UK find:
https://finds.org.uk/database/artef...rd/id/769148

Some examples for sale (I have no affliliation - this guy just usually has a nice set of staters available):
http://www.silburycoins.co.uk/shop/...scribed.html

If they grab you, but the price is too steep, then consider a quarter stater. They're around 13mm diameter and, surprise surprise, a quarter of the weight:
Another nice example:
https://finds.org.uk/database/artef...rd/id/882431

Worn ones will be more affordable, and its nice to consider they've be worn by being in an ancient warriors purse:
https://www.coinarchives.com/93de7d...age01895.jpg
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Thanks everyone.

Basically, any on this webpage that are gold and under $500 are of interest, perhaps you experts can make suggestions from these or others. I am just interested in 1, preferably with an interesting design and history, and at a fair price.

https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.as...By=price_asc

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There are a few too many for me to search*, but you could consider this kind of solidus:
https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/nu...Default.aspx

And a ref:
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/colle...earch/462743

Size, weight and gold content all match what you're after, but it doesn't meet your date range (637-638 AD).

'We three kings of orient are...'.
Well, maybe not quite, but it would make a fantastic Christmas present.

*EDIT: Actually, towards the bottom of the page around the 340 Euro / $400 mark onwards, there are some nice ones at a lower price point, but I'm not expert enough to advise on which is the best value.

However, your gold lust will be statiated by the high gold content. For about a month.
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