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Is This A Real Coin? 1600s Spanish Silver Dollar Phillip IV D'espagne

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 Posted 07/26/2018  11:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PhillipIV to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My friend found this while fishing some time last year. Looks to be Spanish from the engravings? I am not sure whether this is real or fake. Could be a replica or some toy.

I performed a reverse image search on Google and this came up as related results. Markings on the coins in this link look similar to the coin my friend found.

https://www.coinshome.net/fr/coin_d...Ls_ecgue.htm

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1) I performed a magnet test and unfortunately the coin was attracted to the magnet, concluding it should not be real. However, the attraction was slight so it could just be that the coin is impure, not necessarily completely fake. I wish I had a more powerful magnet to see if it was just the magnet I used was weak or if the coin itself is just slightly impure and mixed with another metal

2) On the website link, the coin description says it is made of silver and is from Phillip IV of Spain around the 1600's. But the coin my friend caught appears to be gold. This could be a dead giveaway, but I'd like to make sure. Any history buffs or seasoned coin collectors know about this discrepancy?


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Link above is broken. Alternate link.

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 Posted 07/27/2018  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jst1dreamr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like this.
Spanish colonial - Philip II (1556-1598)
Viceroyalty of Peru, Potosi mint, assayer "B" (Juan Ballestros Narváez)
AR 8 Reales cob, irregular, approx. 38 mm, 27.28 g.
Obv: cross, lions and castles in its' quarters, all within tressure


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 Posted 07/27/2018  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What's the weight? And diameter?

I've seen this type before. It's a modern, base-metal copy of Spanish colonial coin, commonly used in metal detecting competitions and games. They normally come plated to appear like "Spanish treasure gold."
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 Posted 07/27/2018  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toddler81 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seriously doubt it is real. Could be a tourist coin...I know there are several places in Florida that sell such coins because of the combination of Spanish and pirate history of the state.
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I agree the item is not genuine.

Tourist coin (replica) is the best description. They were made to sell for a $1 or $1 to tourists.

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