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Valued Member
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I have an opportunity to buy a 1966 Small Cent taken supposedly from a VIP SP set. Does this set actually exist? What would be a fair price to pay if it does exist? How can I make sure it is a SP Strike and not a regular PL?
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i don't see a specimen set for 1966, in my charlton.. just a 1966 proof like set.
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United States
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There is a 1966 SMS set. I have never heard of a 1966 SP VIP set
Edited by jst1dreamr
07/29/2018 7:59 pm
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i believe the op is talking about Canadian set, not USA.
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@silverwolf Quote:
i believe the op is talking about Canadian set, not USA. Thank you, My first thoughts are USA coins. It is all I collect.  |
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I am using a checklist for Canada pennies, and on the checklist, I do not have any 1966 SP listed either. So, this must be a regular common PL cent then.
What is the best way to tell the difference between a common PL strike penny vs a rarer SP strike penny for the VIP SP years, 1964, 1965, 1968, 1969, and 1970?
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can you get pictures of the coin? as far as I know they only made 1966 specimen dollars..but I suppose anything is possible..although I highly doubt such a set would exist as I focus on specimens and have never seen such a piece or heard of it. if they did strike them, I would assume they'd look like a 1965 specimen..i will attach pics of one to show what they look like.   Feel free to call me Will.
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United States
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No, I could not get photos. I only offered the seller the PL price. I probably will not get it. However, I have a 1964 that is supposed to be from Gold Set, so I assume that would be a Specimen set. I only paid a $1 for it. It is heavily toned, like it was in an open set and not in cello. I can use your photos to see if it is a PL or SP. Is there anything in particular that I should look for that would help me decipher between a PL and SP? Any major differences that really sets them apart one from the other?
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a 1964 from a gold set would not make any sense as they did not strike any gold coins that year..
Feel free to call me Will.
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I would be really careful on paying for ungraded specimen coins pre-1971. I recently purchased a 1970 VIP set (ungraded) in the original case from a reputable auction house, sent to ICCS upon arrival and it came back as PL, a nice set of PL's, but definitely not a $500 nice. The auction company took the set back, but I was out the grading fees. Lesson learned on close inspections, thankfully not too expensive
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United States
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Does anyone have the 1968 and 1969 VIP Specimen sets. I would like to see a photo of the sets and the penny up close. Thanks.
No Gold in 1964. Then it is probably just a standard PL. I will post photos as soon as I get a chance. Thanks.
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please do  i know they made 1964 specimen dollars and apparently some full sets so it is possible..as far as the 1968 and 1969 sets..i have no info, but I know a member here has the dollars, so perhaps he knows of or also has the cents..I'm sure he will see this thread eventually  Feel free to call me Will.
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So, it has been a while since I posted this but I am afraid I am no further along than I was back then. My friend showed me in one of his old Charlton Canada Coin Guides that the pennies coming from the VIP sets in the 1960s were all Prooflike Strikes. There is a note in his old book stating that Specimen Strikes did not exist for the one-cent coins in those sets. So, is his older Charlton incorrect or are the grading companies? I have taken the photo provided and compared it with several 1965 Pennies cut from PL sets, and I have found a few that look the same as the one supposedly graded as a Specimen Strike. When I posted this last time, I asked for specific diagnostics, but none were given. So, I am asking for them again. Exactly what is the difference between a Specimen Strike and a Prooflike Strike for pennies minted in the 1960s and early 1970s? Other than toning, I just do not see any differences. I find PL Strikes that look identical and I know they are PL strikes. What am I looking for here? What are the exact differences?
Edited by pasasap
10/06/2019 4:32 pm
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Short answer. Nope. No SP sets were issued in 1966, only the silver dollars.
1960-1963 - no specimen strikes
1964 - dollar only
1965 - full specimen sets made (mintage unknown)
1966 - dollar only
1967 - full specimen sets made, lots of them
1968 - dollar only
1969 - full specimen sets made (mintage unknown)
1970 - full specimen sets made (mintage approx 1000 sets)
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