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New Member
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 You're right, they are all counterfeit.
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New Member
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Thank you Ploopy. I want to be able to explain to him why that's the conclusion--are there obvious things that you can point out?
From one I have quickly read, the ones purporting to be from 1804 are easy to assess as fake, I think, because the spacing of the stars is not correct; and the gold one should be silver. And it would be surprising to find another 1804 silver dollar given how rare they are!
I don't know what to say about the 1879 and the 1795 however...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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For all these coins, the detail is wrong. Stars, denticles, letters, and the bust are indicative of a Chinese fake. As well, the surfaces look very grainy and suspect. The surfaces are a clear sign the coin is a cast fake. These all appear to be common Chinese counterfeits.
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New Member
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Ok got it. Thanks very much!
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Rest in Peace
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They don't look anything like a real coin, take the Morgan dollar:  Or the flowing Hair dollar (1795):  and when you consider that all 8 Know 1804 dollars reside in museums or private collections worth 8 figures...
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Pillar of the Community
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Did he win those at the Carnival?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Definitely fakes. Keep digging!   to the CCF!
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Valued Member
United States
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Does anyone know what that 1879 is even supposed to be? A Trade dollar of some kind? Tried to find some history on this one but failed just some commentary on the metallurgy.
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Quote:Does anyone know what that 1879 is even supposed to be? A Trade dollar of some kind? Tried to find some history on this one but failed just some commentary on the metallurgy. It's a goloid pattern dollar. These were patterns, never issued for circulation; only a few were struck to demonstrate to government officials the experimental concept of a mixed gold-silver alloy to use for coinage. The probability of a genuine goloid pattern finding it's way to Burma is zero - just like the probability of a genuine 1804 or 1795 dollar in the same circumstances. As for the coins generally, yes, they are all supposed to be silver dollars, and I can guarantee that none of them will actually be made of silver. They are also likely to be significantly underweight (probably around 20 grams, as opposed to the regulation 26.7 grams) These "southeast Asian replicas" are generally of lower quality than the Chinese-made replicas that are flooding the market these days. The mushy details on these coins signify a low-grade casting (they probably all have a "casting seam" on the edge) and the re-engraved details are simply crude; finally, the black blotchy "toning" is smeared on them to try to make them look old.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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...and probably bought at a street market.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Some of these fakes, although looking similar to silver, are likely attracted to a refrigerator magnet. Demonstrating this and comparing the weights of these fakes with the actual weights, given in a coin catalog, will likely prove convincing to a doubter.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 To CCF! These are definitely not legitimate coins. They're fake.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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All are fakes, unfortunately.
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