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What Is Up With My 1935-S Cent?

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AM pulling out some Lincoln Cents I've had in my collection for quite a while, and I had never noticed the poor reverse on this coin (compared to the relatively sharp obverse). I realize the shots are not perfectly in focus, but on the reverse, there really is very little detail in the wheat ears, especially the left.
Any ideas about this?
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This was caused by severe Die Deterioration (die wear), caused by a worn out die.
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Thanks EandV.
This is a coin I probably I picked up as a teenager many years ago, and I never noticed. I don't think I've ever seen such a big difference between obv and rev like this on a Lincoln, but not that many pass through my hands, since I mostly collect foreign.

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You're very welcome and no problem! Sometimes, you would only get one die that was in a Very Late Die State, while the other die was in a earlier die state. Sometimes they pair up a very worn die with a fresher die.
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1935-S is known for VLDS examples. I've been filling Dansco 7106 albums for the last 4 years or so and have acquired 7 or 8 examples of '35-S and found quite a few examples like yours available. Well struck examples are out there but LDS and VLDS examples seem to out number them.
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Dave700x, I'm guessing that the U.S. Mint were pushing the dies to there most extreme limits?
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They sure were. The LWC series is full of this.
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Yep. That's true. I see this all of the time too. They were trying to save some money.
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Kinda looks like a Struck Through Grease or maybe a tapered planchet.
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I'll go with worn dies, quite an advanced example.
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maybe a tapered planchet


I've never heard of that before, as I'm pretty ignorant about most kinds of minting irregularities. I guess that could explain why the reverse details are stronger to the right than the left? But would one expect a similar gradient on the obverse?

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Here is what a Tapered Planchet looks like. http://www.error-ref.com/tapered-planchets/

Your coin shows extreme Die Deterioration (die wear). It's not a Tapered Planchet.
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Thanks E&V.

Your link confirms what I thought when tapered planchet was mentioned. If the planchet tapers, weakness on both sides of the coin would be expected (ie. if the left wheat ear is weak, then the left side of the obverse should also be weak).

But tossing around the different possibilities has helped me learn about several types of minting irregularities, so it's all good.
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Here is what a Tapered Planchet looks like. http://www.error-ref.com/tapered-planchets/


Cool site EV. I'll have to bookmark that one this evening and start reading..
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You're very welcome and no problem! Error-ref.com is a great site for useful information. :-)
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Worn rev die paired with a new obv die. They didn't make it a regular practice to change both dies at the same time. Another good example of this in the 1922 "P" cent die pair 2 where a greatly worn out obv was paired with a sharp new reverse.
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