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1959 (1 Cent) Pointed 5 And Blunt 5 Varieties!

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I just wanted to share this with my fellow Canada penny collectors. Below you will find two photos clearly showing two 1959 Canada Small Cent varieties, pointed 5 and blunt 5.

I hope this will help those who want both varieties in their sets determine what exactly they look like and how to tell them apart.

1959-1-Cent-Pointed-5-And-Blunt-5-Varieties!
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Your closeups show both as being blunt 5.
The 1cent coins show each of blunt and pointed 5.
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Your closeups show both as being blunt 5.


I can't see any difference in the closeups either.

The full side shot on the left does look like it is pointed. Can you do a closeup photo of the date on that coin?
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I can't see a difference etheir.
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This has been discussed amongst 1-cent collectors since 2007. The populations for both seem to be more or less equal.

Here is the oldest post I can find on this, in a thread spanning fro 2007-2013 (it is in French, but Google Translate should help): http://www.numicanada.com/forum/vie...4&hilit=1959

I did not include this one in the 70th Edition Charlton small cent varieties, because this one is more difficult to discern (however, I digress, in hindsight the 1929 High 9 is probably tougher).
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1959-1-Cent-Pointed-5-And-Blunt-5-Varieties!

The Pointed variety is on the left side.
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If you are using a phone to look at these photos, then you will need to blow them up more using your magnifier option, because I do not think you can see the differences easily on such a small screen. I am using a standard laptop screen, and I can see the differences very clearly. Please note that the two photos are not of the same coins. The blown up close up in the original post is a set of circulated pennies. The pointed variety is worn, but clearly shows on the penny on the right. The bottom photo is of an uncirculated pair. The pointed variety is on the left. I have blown up the bottom photo for you above. You can clearly see on the uncirculated coins that the penny on the left has a pointed 5 and the one on the right has a blunt 5. The two varieties are noted on this Forum in the price guide under the 1959 Canada Small Cent page. It is in the lower notes where the ** are found. I find the idea of there being a blunt variety and pointed variety significant enough to warrant collecting both varieties. It took some work, but I finally found a dealer on ebay that had both.
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pasasap I have a 4K system calibrated. plus 40 inches monitor. defently pointed and blunt. would you mind putting up the reverse of these coins. I would like check for something else. by the way stunning coins. thank you for sharing
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pasapap-
There are actually four versions of the 59 cent if you
want to collect them all.
Large Bead Blunt and Pointed
Small Bead Blunt and Pointed
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Sorry, it is taking me so long to respond. I had some things going on and did not have a chance to get on the forum for the last couple of weeks.

Rocky, I have not gotten the BU pennies yet. The dealer sent me these photos to confirm he had both varieties in BU Red, but I do not yet have the physical coins. However, I do have the circulated set, but I am not able to scan photos at the moment. I will do it tomorrow and post them for you. I will post the BU pennies once I get them for you.

JimmyD, I am not sure if you confused 1959 with 1965 or if you are just using a different term than what I would have used. For 1965, there are four different varieties involving bead sizes and pointed and blunt 5's, but for 1959, the pennies have denticles and not beads. However, on my list there are small and large denticles varieties for 1948, 1949, and 1955, so I can see how it could be possible for 1959. Did you confuse 1965 with 1959 or did you mean small and large denticles, but you call them beads? If you have all four varieties or both large and small denticles for 1959, could you post them for me? I would love to see what they look like.

This is for anyone reading this post... What dates are known to have both Large and Small Denticles? What about bead size? For instance, does Large and Small Beads also exist on 1966 pennies, not just 1965 pennies? I know that is the case for dollars, but I have not heard of it being the case for pennies. Thanks.
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1959-1-Cent-Pointed-5-And-Blunt-5-Varieties!

Pointed 5


1959-1-Cent-Pointed-5-And-Blunt-5-Varieties!

Blunt 5
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Rocky, I got the two BU Red 1959 pennies today. Here are new photos from my scanner.

1959-1-Cent-Pointed-5-And-Blunt-5-Varieties!


1959-1-Cent-Pointed-5-And-Blunt-5-Varieties!
Pointed 5


1959-1-Cent-Pointed-5-And-Blunt-5-Varieties!
Blunt 5
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The pointed variety is on top and the blunt variety is on the bottom.
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After revisiting the coins in my set and looking at them under a 60X loop, I think you guys might have been correct, they are the same. The only reason the one on the left looks pointed is because the very top part of the metal looks that way. I think the die had slightly broken off causing the very slight difference making one look more pointed than the other. With the loop, it is very difficult to see the difference without tilting the coins. I was wondering if anyone had one that was truly Blunt and not slanting? Or one that was more pointed, more like the 1965? Although my two 1959s are different from each other, they are not as dramatically different as the 1965 and I wonder now if that means they are not actually different. Maybe I do not actual have the 1959 pointed variety and I was wondering if someone had both versions to post or had a 1959 that actually looked Blunt without the slight slant? I did not find this variety, it was already suggested before I started collecting, but now I question that my coins are actually different enough to say one is slanted and the other is more slanted. Any opinions or further examples would be appreciated.
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