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2018-S PR-70 NGC DCAM Silver Eagle

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This is my first post in this forum, a newbie here, but been collection coins for a long time.

I was watching the Coin Collector on HSN2 at 2:00 AM EST and Mike Mezack had 2018-S PR70 NGC DCAM Silver Eagles for sale. How is this possible when the mint release date is next Tuesday, 8/14?
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to CCF. Maybe it was a pre order? I suggest you watch the coin vault instead of HSN.
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I only watch Mike Mezack for entertainment, lol. I would never buy from him with his over inflated prices. Mike had an actual 2018-S PR70 NGC DCAM silver eagle on display on his show. Closeups were shown front and back of the coin including the "S" mint mark.
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1) the 2018-S ASE has not been released yet so he really didn't have one on camera.

2) it is very common to pre-sale MANY releases WITH Photo-shopped pics

Example:

https://www.paradisemint.com/2018-S...omcast%2Enet

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The above is a perfect example of why YOU shouldn't send in routine moderns for grading. The price for a perfect 70 ER is actually less than what it would cost you to submit with NO guarantee of getting that grade.
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While I realize some collectors cannot get to a coin show or dealer's shop, f you buy a coin on TV, you will be paying too much!
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The actual coin is in hand. See this You tube video from the Coin Collector show which aired again at 8PM EST 08/11/2018. I did make one mistake though, it was an ANACS graded coin not NGC, my bad.

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to CCF
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It makes absolutely no sense that these TV hucksters would have a coin in hand AND ALREADY GRADED the week before it is released to anyone by the Mint. All respectable dealers are pre-selling the coin with stock/edited photos which is the norm

Yes, I did watch the video (with some severe fast forwarding) and understand where you are coming from.
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I looked for a certification number on the ANACS slab, around 21:45 in the video. The number shown (0010101010101016) is not recognized by ANACS, at least not on their site. I'm thinking ANACS provided a dummy slab for the show, someone may have mocked the date on a genuine ASE (the "8" looks slightly more reflective than the other digits).
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Stick a 2018-W in the dummy slab for the obverse and use a real 2017-S for the reverse. Coins in the video are never moved....

(suggested by another collector)
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The number shown (0010101010101016) is not recognized by ANACS, ...


... but, that number does match the bar code shown
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Go to ebay and you will see many of these "unreleased" 2018-S PF70 coins in TPG slabs. Personnally, I don't have any interest in this coin mostly because...
2018-S-PR-70-NGC-DCAM-Silver-Eagle

But, as stated, if you REALLY want a TPG PF-70 you are probably best buying in the after market since the uncertainty and grading fees are taken care of.

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While I realize some collectors cannot get to a coin show or dealer's shop, f you buy a coin on TV, you will be paying too much!



The video starts out with the 71,72,73 & 74 Ike Blue packs, all 4 for $89. Cheap because dealers typically charge $42 for each coin...

Ummmm - they go for about $10 - $14 each... So he is charging double... great deal
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I like it when they say "sold out at the mint" when referring to common Statehood Quarters.
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Ummmm - they go for about $10 - $14 each... So he is charging double... great deal


You mean $7.00 full retail.

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