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Byzantine Coins ... Or Not?

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 Posted 08/14/2018  05:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pdg to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Greetings all,
I acquired these in a bulk lot of coins which included a bunch of "ancient" coins which, even to my inexpert eyes, were crude and clearly fake.
However, I'm not sure about these. They range in size from 22 to 29mm.
Ancient coins are foreign territory for me so many thanks in advance for any wisdom shared.

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The two coins below were in the same lot. The Constantine bronze is common as far as I know, so it would hardly seem worth faking?

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 Posted 08/14/2018  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@pdg, fake or not I don't know--no red flags for me in that regard. However, the lower right Byzantine coin shows signs of bronze disease and should be isolated from all of your other coins right away. You can treat it, but first step is to prevent BD from "infecting" the rest of your collection.
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 Posted 08/14/2018  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pdg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Spence, the sickly coin has now been quarantined...
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 Posted 08/14/2018  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing very suspicious about them
I believe the two lower Byzantine are Justin II
Anonymous Christ looks fine

Who would fake Constantine is something we have heard many times over the past 10 years
They have
They do
And they surely will !
In some places on this planet a few hundred dollars is still big bucks
I don't see anything wrong with this one but the fake Constantine's may actually be some of the hardest fakes to detect.
You really need to be expert in the field of Constantines as there are so many thousands of varieties that it would take an entire lifetime to collect them all and know a good fake when you see it
I give 5 out of 6 certainly good
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 Posted 08/14/2018  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Byzantine coins look fine to me. Top is an anonymous follis featuring Jesus (made c.10-11th century), bottom two are folles of Justin I, and I am not sure of the top right.

Constantius II looks fine; it is in excellent condition for a "lot" coin, but also very common and not worth a lot.

The Seleucid coin I am not sure of, but am leaning toward genuine. It is Seleucus IV, and would easily be the most valuable of the lot.
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 Posted 08/14/2018  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All appear to be genuine.
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 Posted 08/15/2018  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pdg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spence, FVRIVS RVFVS, Finn235 and echizento, thanks very much for sharing your knowledge. Given where these coins came from that's better news than I expected. I also now have a starting point for some background reading ... I'd never heard of the Seleucid Empire until now.
The Seleucid coin has curious projections around the edge. Any idea if they are decorative, or a byproduct of the minting process?
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