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That looks like a split lamination. nice find.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Very nice find and congratulations! That's a very nice Lamination error!
Errers and Varietys.
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Indeed a nice Rim to Rim Lam - the arrowed area looks to me like the LAM peeled up a bit.
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Yeah definitely a de-lam with some peelback.
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 Really, a Delamination? I have to disagree. I believe this to be a struck through adheres piece of foil scrap and here is why. There are two equal distance edges extending side to side but ending at the rim lip. A Lam would somewhat tend to extend over the lip and to the edge of the coin. I think the sharp edge of the rim offset on the die sheared the edges of the scrap to the rim inside lip. Laminated coins don't tend to have such straight delineations. All us are really just armchair experts here, need to call in some big guns... |
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I believe this to be a struck through adheres piece of foil scrap and here is why. There are two equal distance edges extending side to side but ending at the rim lip. Now that makes sense! Thank God we have people with a know responding! |
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Well sorry that I am not a professional coin attributer Mark. We are all here to learn from each other without a comment like that. I'll make sure I add in to my posts (IMHO)
Crazyb - I didn't even think of that - so you are saying that the whole middle section there is a struck through? It is such are large section of the coin and a really cool one at that then.
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so you are saying that the whole middle section there is a struck through? Yes CoinCents, exactly. I did send both Mike Diamond and Coop an email request to check this out, but it must have gotten overlooked. Laminations don't usually form along perpendicular lines, they are erratic and variable. There should be some evidence of separation extending into the formed area of the rim and toward the outside by the collar contact. But I see no evidence that the peeling runs over the rim. Under magnification a closer look at the field area as it approaches the rim offset...that is where I believe the foil became cut off evenly, should see a circular edge there. |
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I can see what is being said about the parallelism of the lines, but metal has been shown to do this also. Additionally I have seen de-laminations that do not go to the rims. I'm not sure how it could be explained that planchet material can be pulled away from the coin due to a strike through. Finally some people need to reasses (look what's in the middle of that word!!) their holier than thou know it all attitude when others come up with a hypothesis. If someone is having a hard day they should pause to choose their words more carefully before replying. Getting hysterical in your response serves no purpose. Chillax.
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I'm slightly more confused then before, Sorry, but all this coin lingo is making my head hurt. In simple terms am I safe to say its a Lamination error? I appreciated everyone help I just need to catch up on all wording used to explain errors. I will take notes on this one and do some research like I should. Again thank you!
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Not trying to stir a boiling pot here as I am certainly no expert nor do I have coin in hand, but
A lam is basically where part of the coin metal has lost its bond to the adjacent coin metal. This could be as CBo said that a foreign scrap of metal was bonded to the planchet at the time of the strike. The fact that there are parallel lines of lams on this coin may be inconclusive because all the metal that makes up this coin appears to be coin metal thus the extra metal would most likely come from a lamination of another coin or planchet that lamed that way.
Weighing the coin could possibly give some insight.
A lam could also be caused by impurities in the coin metal bar stock which is rolled to the proper thickness before the coin blanks are punched. This rolling does leave a linear structure to the coin metal that could possibly form parallel lines of lams.
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If you can get the weight as stoneman said, that would be great.
Errers and Varietys.
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The coin weighs, Drum roll.....3.067 grams'If you need more pic's I can take them.
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