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Tarnished Silver US 25 Cents

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Does tarnishing (blackish not colored toning) have a value effect on slabbed PCGS or NGC graded Silver quarters?
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It can but not always. For me personally I don't find toned coins to be desirable at all. Let's say you have a slabbed coin that is M65 and it is toned. Technically it still grades M65 even though the eye appeal isn't there. Hope that makes sense!
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Post a pic. I don't mind a nicely toned coin,but if it is blackish it most likely will have a low eye appeal.
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Toning can increase or decrease the value depending on the type of toning.

Black is almost always bad.
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I generally don't mind if a coin is toned, as long as its uniform-ish and in a copper tone or lighter. I have passed on some higher grade coins for better eye appeal with lesser grades. My collection is for my enjoyment, and that includes pleasing to look at.
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Your question is about a black toned silver Quarter .
My answer : yuck ! But as mentioned it will still hold it's slabbed grade .
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Black is generally the final stage of coin metal degradation, the natural process of metal oxidation, or in plain English, decay. At least you know it won't be getting any worse!

True, "rainbow" or multi-hued toning ate nothing more than stages of the natural downward cycle. You may be able to retard the progressive effect, for a time by sealing, chemical treatments, but onward metal corrosion marches.
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I would say that black is usually not a good sign, but how about some pics?



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If you can post a picture, that would be great.
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Pics would be great...I myself do note find the black toned silver coins attractive. TPGs seem to ignore the black and just grade it on the details.

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If it is going straight to black to was probably dipped and improperly rinsed before slabbing and the dip traces are now attacking the coin inside the holder. Unfortunately neither of the two major services guarantees will compensate you for a coin that "turns bad" after it was slabed.
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If it's in a slab, that is odd that it is turning black. Mlust have had something on it before slabbing.
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I was leaning more to a breach in the hermetic seal on the slab. Sorry I couldn't locate the 25c tonite but on another hand I have almost a full NGC box of graded 5c that are all toning a golden color not unlike a Sache Dollar. Never heard of this either. The nicks are all proofs and no its not the camera...any ideas
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Were they toned when they were slabbed? The early 60's proof sets were known for nickels that toned gold or blue in the sets. Those toned nickels were very popular and sometime brought good money. Slabbing them would not be too much of a surprise.

And what generation NGC holder are they? The old "no line" fatties were known for the paper label sometimes causing toning of the coins. Although usually such toning was directional with the toning being greatest at the point of the coin closest to the label.
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