Just Bought This Very Rare Vespasian Denarius

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orfew Pillar of the Community Canada 1269 Posts	Posted 09/02/2018 2:25 pm I saw this in the Numismatik Naumann auction catalogue and knew I wanted it. It is listed in RIC II Part one as R3, one example known. This is not the RIC plate coin but it is (no surprise) a double die match to that coin. My assumption is that this is the second known of its type. It will take an honoured position in my 12 Caesars set. I am very excited to have won this coin. VESPASIAN (69-79). Denarius. Ephesus. (3.00 g.17 mm.) Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS III TR P P P. Laureate head right. Rev: PACI AVGVSTAE. Victory advancing right, holding wreath and palm frond; monogram to right. RIC² 1425. Condition: Very fine. Numismatik Naumann Auction 69 Lot 348 September 2, 2018 Report this Post to the Staff

Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 09/02/2018 3:50 pm Quote: ...the second known of its type. Wow, that's a great find. Congrats. You're gonna have start stacking the Caesars in the set...must be at least a 20 Caesars set by now. (well, okay, 12 Caesars - but quite a few more coins than that) Edited by Kamnaskires 09/02/2018 3:56 pm Report this Post to the Staff
orfew Pillar of the Community Canada 1269 Posts	Posted 09/02/2018 4:11 pm Thanks Bob. With this coin I am now up to 38 coins of the 12 Caesars. This includes 36 denarii, 1 cistophorus, and 1 Alexandrian diobol. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15475 Posts	Posted 09/02/2018 4:22 pm Congratulations indeed. Well acquired - and apparently a lovely addition to your already lovely collection. One of the greatest strengths of the CCF is that we are able to support each other collecting endeavors - even without any expertise in the topic being shared. In that spirit I submit this reply - congratulations indeed. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
orfew Pillar of the Community Canada 1269 Posts	Posted 09/02/2018 4:32 pm Many thanks for the kind words @nickelsearcher. Boards like these are very important, especially when the hobby can be so solitary sometimes. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 09/02/2018 4:39 pm Congrats on a rare find. Report this Post to the Staff
antwerpen2306 Pillar of the Community Belgium 1194 Posts	Posted 09/03/2018 11:27 am very nice coin , mention S in RIC, very good deal . congrats. I was checking in RIC volume 2 and I think the right reference is : RIC2,Vespasianus 333, it is a coin of Group III , AD 71 ( COSIII ),coins of Asia Minor , (Ephesus , Byzantium , Philippi ). The monogram at right is in principle the mintmark , but detailled pictures are needed to read it .Normally it is Ephesus . The reverse is reading : Augustae Paci,Paci Augustae doesn't exist with this obverse . But it is a very nice,remarkeble coin . albert Report this Post to the Staff
orfew Pillar of the Community Canada 1269 Posts	Posted 09/03/2018 2:47 pm Sorry Albert but that is not correct. The obverse legend is IMP CAESAR VESPAS AUG COS III TR P PP. If you look up the legend in RIC II Part one it gives the refs 1423-34. Of those the only one that fits is 1425. It is group 5 with the Ephesus by mintmark. You can see it on my coin near the bottom of the reverse just right of victory. This has been confirmed by a friend of mine on forum who is an expert in Flavian coinage. As for the Paci legend, RIC mentions the the legend begins in the top right of the reverse. In addition there is a coin with victory left with the legend starting on the left. My friend calls it RIC 1425 var because it is unpublished. He has one and does one other person I know. So far there are only 2 examples known for each of 1425 and 1425 var. In addition check your RIC II and look up plate 77 near the back of the volume. Now check the image for 1425 and you will see my coin is a double die match for the plate coin. thanks for your post. Edited by orfew 09/03/2018 2:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff
antwerpen2306 Pillar of the Community Belgium 1194 Posts	Posted 09/04/2018 1:21 pm I suppose you use the new 2007 Ric , I have the old version . albert Report this Post to the Staff
orfew Pillar of the Community Canada 1269 Posts	Posted 09/04/2018 1:23 pm Sorry Albert I thought you had the new RIC. Yes I am using the 2007 edition. Old edition RIC 333 is New edition 1431. But this is not my coin because it has the EPE mintmark and mine does not. Mine has the graphic mintmark instead. I do appreciate your help with this. Andrew Edited by orfew 09/04/2018 1:27 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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