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Pillar of the Community
Poland
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Basically, I just want to say that this coin looks weird. It was on offer in Poland. Along with some other dubious stuff like Peace dollars weighing 19 grams (?) and obvious $1 1795/1800/1804 fakes. Is this a fake Ike?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am certainly no expert on fake coins, nor even US coins. But the details on the coin look proper enough to me. What about this coin makes you think it looks weird? |
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
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well the rim is strange, the LIBERTY seems to close to the rim, the reverse also makes me suspicious..
that said, you know I'm new to US collecting and that's why I ask.
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 United States
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I cannot see it well enough, but is this a 1971-S? The 1971-S Eisenhower dollar is 40% silver. Many of the 40% silver Ikes often acquired cloudy milk spots as they toned, even if properly stored. Something in the alloy? If real, it appears this one has been treated less than kind. A bigger picture might help. |
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Pillar of the Community
Poland
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Sorry, they didn't provide any bigger pictures.. so one has to judge from this one..
Anyway, are Ikes frequently counterfeited?
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United States
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I cannot imagine anyone counterfeiting an Ike. Not to say it is impossible, just improbable. A contemporary counterfeit seems impractical since by the time the Ike's were minted, the US dollar had lost a lot of purchase power compared to the days that Morgan and Peace dollars were current. A numismatic counterfeit would not be very profitable. The 1971-S is hardly a key date, and the 1971-D is one of the most common dates (behind the 1972, 1972-D, 1976, and 1976-D). However, stranger things have happened! Although I love the Eisenhower dollar, I am hardly an expert on counterfeits. If you could get just this Ike (without the other obvious fakes) for cheap, it might be worth it to buy for educational purposes!  |
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Pillar of the Community
Poland
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Well I think it's overpriced.. It was offered for 21 zl while there are proof sets (some of them with Ikes which is why I want one) priced at 25 zl plus shipping.. That's quite a lot for a dubious coin..
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't know why anyone would copy one of these coins but I have to say it definately doesn't look right to me
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The coin looks like it has been thru alot. I also don't know why someone would counterfeit Ikes. I still get them at the local banks now and then. It seems lately they are showing up more. Coin dealers generally won't pay a premium for them so people dump them at the bank.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
Poland
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Oh my that's just unexplainable. Thanks for the information. So in fact one has to beware of the .. fake Ikes  |
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United States
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Not a chance it's real. In the context of the other items, it's obviously fake. The reverse strike is far too weak even for an Ike and the color is unlike anything one would expect of the coin.
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United States
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That's quite a lot for a dubious coin.. I agree. Probably even too much for a real one in that condition! Quote:
Here is one I found quick. He is selling for 99 cents but shipping is $9! What a doofus! Woah! That one is obviously a fake! Quote:
Not a chance it's real. In the context of the other items, it's obviously fake. The reverse strike is far too weak even for an Ike and the color is unlike anything one would expect of the coin. Good point. And after looking at mmerc20's link, this one DK20K found is looking more "off" to me. Edited by jbuck
07/11/2008 5:11 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Well I think it's overpriced.. It was offered for 21 zl You are right to think it is overpriced as that is about 10 USD. Even genuine, it would have been a bad deal for you. $10 would even be a bit much for one of the 40% silver Ikes but at least it would be closer in value for one of those instead of the regular copper nickel clad. Even genuine, it would have been a bad deal for you. |
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Germany
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Howdy, DL20K, the Ike is definitely a fake! I'm sure, that the weight is around 19 grams, too. The Chinese counterfeits, what ever they see. No matter, if they make profit or not. I have seen Silver Eagles with dates from 1899 to 1908, Peace-Dollars from 1929, Morgan's with 1927 or 1947 on it, Modern Commemoratives from 1906 (Ellis Island) and fantasy coins, too. Here is a seller on the german ebay, who has a lot of such fakes: http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQfrtsZ50Q...sZwasrus1900It's a shame  Edited by MorganDollar
07/11/2008 6:46 pm
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