Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions300,000 items to help build your collection! Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

What Is This?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 2,261Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
DL20K's Avatar
Poland
3201 Posts
 Posted 07/11/2008  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A silver Ike (UNC) is at a stable price of 30,- ($15) here.
In comparison, a bad Morgan (VF, for example dated 1921) usually costs 50,- ($25). A good one (XF marketed as AU) 70,- to 80,-. Oh and they are ungraded of course.
How are those prices related to those in the US? Aren't these coins overpriced here?


MorganDollar, thanks for the link. I'll take a closer look at them, as I recognize some of them. The "famous" 5 mark 1903J is there too! This one I've seen just too many times offered as an original..
Edited by DL20K
07/11/2008 6:45 pm
Valued Member
United States
372 Posts
 Posted 07/11/2008  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's amazing the crap coins they are producing in China, but a shocking amount of very realistic stuff too! I saw a Peace dollar dated 1830 or something. It was so stupid!

Mike
Valued Member
United States
177 Posts
 Posted 07/11/2008  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BobK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$15 is about double what silver unc Ikes go for in the US. The Morgan prices you quoted are also very much on the high side. So yeah, seems they're overpriced in your area.

As for the counterfeit Ikes, I can't imagine why somebody would bother! The time and effort could be much more lucratively spent on lots of other things.
Valued Member
PennehChaos's Avatar
United States
311 Posts
 Posted 07/11/2008  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PennehChaos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

As pathetic as it sounds, some of the Chinese fake sellers are in fact making (or perhaps experimenting) with Ike dollars. I don't know why since they wouldn't make any money on them.


It costs them almost nothing... labor is dirt cheap, and the pot-metal they cast these things out of is even cheaper. They probably don't even have a quarter invested in each one they produce. That's far more profit than most legal products earn.

On this one, the reverse is definitely the give-away (along with the dull gray color). Two big things.
Compared to a real Ike, the feathers of the upper wing have very high relief, but have lousy definition and detail. They also seem a bit too wide.

Second, the lettering in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA legend isn't nearly as regular and precise as it should be. Consider that somebody took a negative cast of a real coin coin in order to make a mold for this. The fine lettering, with its hard edges, did not transfer well to the mold media, so someone had to re-etch the lettering by hand to make it show up, and you'll see that this is exactly what happened here- the lines on the letters vary in thickness, and the edges are not sharp. A lot of fakes are like this- in particular, lettering that is engraved into a banner (like the LIBERTY on headbands, or lettering on a scroll) seems to give them a lot of trouble, since it needs to be raised up out of the void in the negative.
  Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 2,261Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.21 seconds to rattle this change. Forums