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2017-P Shield Series Penny- What Do You Think?

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 Posted 09/07/2018  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Guys,
I'm getting confused here.
Trying to learn here exactly what Die Deterioration is,
but I can't see anything on the coin that looks like the
Die Deterioration photo supplied. What am I missing?


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 Posted 09/07/2018  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die Deterioration (die wear) is caused by the die getting worn from striking coins. As the die continuously strike coins, the die will slowly begin to break down, and the design will get weaker with every strike. We will often categorize the different die states, to describe what state the die was in. They're Early Die State, Mid Die State, Late Die State, and the last one would be Very Late Die State.

The OP's coin is starting to show heavy die flow lines on the top of "TRUST", stretching of the letter on "TRUST" (starting to slowly merge to the rim), and the details are starting to get mushy.
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09/07/2018 5:32 pm
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 Posted 09/07/2018  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Hey Guys,
I'm getting confused here.
Trying to learn here exactly what Die Deterioration is,
but I can't see anything on the coin that looks like the
Die Deterioration photo supplied. What am I missing?


I totally agree with you, there is none! Crazyb0 had already described it correctly.
We always need to be careful with our opinions and findings ,when an expert speaks. we listen!
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 Posted 09/07/2018  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As others have said, the word TRUST is distorted by Die Deterioration. You can clearly see the formation of a " Ridge Ring" just inside the design rim. Plating disturbance doubling can have a similar appearance, but it can occur in the absence of Die Deterioration and can be significantly more offset.
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 Posted 09/08/2018  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Thanks for the detailed explanation.
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 Posted 09/08/2018  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CylentOne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, thank you all! I'm starting to see what may be a good coin compared to the ones that are just slightly off.

I'll keep on searching.
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 Posted 09/08/2018  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome JimmyD. I made it easier to understand, so it wouldn't be as confusing.
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