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2017-P Shield Series Penny- What Do You Think?

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Let me know what you think about this find!

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What do you think?


I think that the die was getting tired.
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An example of PDD, Plate disturbance doubling, not to be referred to as a doubled die, a strike error is all, no premiums. Don't confuse with MD or Die Deterioration either, different animals, same zoo.

http://www.error-ref.com/?s=plate+d...nce+doubling
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@crazyb0, above RUS in TRUST it doesn't look like the die is becoming worn to you?
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Note the whole device, Dave. Deterioration affects the side/portion facing the rim.(die flow). If anything, this was indeed a shimmy of the die, more a Mechanical Doubling. I've read it described as a "squeeze-pop". The coins are struck and squeezed in the single squeeze process. Sometimes the dies move after strike and before full force squeeze. This causes a bit of offset from the initial to get aligned. Sometimes making a popping sound when it does. That let's the tech know, an adjustment needs making. Then again, maybe just loose parts.
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I thought the "single squeeze processes" was how the "dies" were made not the coins.Coins for circulation are pressed a single time.
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Ok thanks @crazyb0 for the numismatic lesson.
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Plate disturbance doubling, not a doubled die.
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I thought the "single squeeze processes" was how the "dies" were made not the coins.Coins for circulation are pressed a single time.
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I stand corrected, yes that is the process instead of a double stamp like a proof or the adding of different hubbing dies. What I was referring to is the looseness that happens upon a strike, does make a racket. But with PDD, this is a machine VIBRATION, that if the plating is improperly applied is a bit loose, this is the reaction.
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Why was the 'P' mint mark on one year?
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(I posted this before on a different thread, but not sure if anyone saw it or not?
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Don't confuse with MD or Die Deterioration either


E/V , where does your SDD article fit in on this topic?
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There's bad Die Deterioration going on. If you look at the top of TRUST", you can see some Die Deterioration setting in, so it does fit in. It's also Late Die State issue. My main reason for posting that picture Chase is to explain Die Deterioration, so that it's easier to understand.
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There's bad Die Deterioration going on


Are you disputing Crazybo's statement?
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No Chase, I'm not disputing Crazyb0's statement. What makes you think that? To be clear, this isn't a dispute. I just wanted to to add some information on this thread about Die Deterioration.
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