1909 S VDB (Lwc)? Please Comment

Yes, thanks, but I don't think this is the issue here.

I clipped, rotated, and sharpened the pics that Coreyv1982 posted. They're still too blurred to be sure of anything, but I think I see what he sees. See the circled areas on the enhanced photos below.

Obverse:


Reverse:


Here is a genuine 1909-S VDB reverse, with lines added from the two "Ns" to the V.D.B. location.



And the questionable coin, with the best lines I could add to a fuzzy, incomplete photo.



First, if there is an "S" mm, and if what I have circled is that suspected mm, it would almost have to be Die #3. The location north-south seems close. The location east-west is what makes me pause, since it almost seems to be caught between Dies 2 and 3. Since there were more dies for the 1909-S than the 1909-S V.D.B., the mm location can't rule out a 1909-S. It's possible,but without a sharper photo, I'm not (yet) convinced there is an "S" on this critter.

The most likely blobs to be a "V.D.B." seem too far east, but much better pictures are needed.

I'm inclined to see this as a 1909 Philadelphia, with a slight possibility that it is a badly abused and worn 1909-S.

Regardless, this is one coin that has been "rode hard and put away wet."

@coop, I agree, the mm would be clear on any '09-S. What makes me pause a bit is that (1) this coin has so much damage that part of the mm could have been obliterated by PMD and (2) the photos are hopelessly blurry. If a clearer photo doesn't show PMD in that area, it definitely isn't a mm.

I don't see the V.D.B. initials. I think you have the normal 1909 S with no V.D.B. initials.