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1909 S VDB (Lwc)? Please Comment

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I found a coin roll hunting that upon closer inspection has many errors and I can see many mint mark errors and the initials v.d.b. are all over the back of the coin. Then it mark appears to be horizontal and vertical on the face of the coin. I can also see the date repeated all over the coin. Also doubling can be seen. Will pat better pictures under the scope soon.
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First To the CCF

Not sure what your seeing but all I can tell from those
pictures is that you have a worn and dinged up coin.
What your describing is impossible to have happened at the mint
so unless something can be seen in better pictures I will say PMD
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I don't see an S mint mark on your coin. I think I can see VDB on the reverse, but better pictures will help - use natural sunlight so it isn't so grainy.

A dinged up 1909 VDB is still good, but isn't worth 1909 S VDB money.
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The "S" is horizontal .
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to the Forum.

I think your eyes together with too much glare in your pics coupled with the dings and stains and scratches on a heavily worn coin are playing a trick on you.
I don't see any S or any VDB or error for that matter. Keep searching.
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No discernible S or VDB to my eyes either.



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Your coin is a dinged up 1909-P cent. Wholesale "buy" is about 50 cents.

The more you look at something like this the more you see things that aren't there. Your eyes and mind are playing tricks on you.

This has happened to all of us at one time or another during our coin careers.

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Not a 1909-S VDB. I don't see an S or VDB.
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There is NO indication of a mint mark nor designer initials. A common 1909-P in FR-02 at best, candidate for the cull/junk bins.

BTW, no such thing as a "Horizontal S"...there is a RPM S over Horizontal S, but you don't even have an S
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I actually see a vdb on the reverse of the first pic. I also see why you see a "s" on the obverse, but it's just a trick of the eye.
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If it is not raised, it is not there.
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Your coin is a dinged up 1909-P cent. Wholesale "buy" is about 50 cents.

The more you look at something like this the more you see things that aren't there. Your eyes and mind are playing tricks on you.

This has happened to all of us at one time or another during our coin careers.

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First To CCF , Sorry but you don't have anything to speak of .
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THIS is what a 1909 S V.D.B looks like.
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Note the location and orientation of the "S" mintmark and the "V.D.B."
If your coin does not have them in these locations then your coin is not a 1909 S V.D.B
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There were actually 4 different obverse dies used to make the 09-S VDB Lincolns...

https://www.PCGS.com/news/Counterfe...incoln-Cents
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