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1999 Canadian Penny. Could This Be A Wrong Planchet

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 Posted 09/11/2018  3:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sunshine0274 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I found a 1999 Canadian penny and it looks odd. It is curved and light. Bigger than a normal penny and different color. Could this be a wrong plank? What would something like this be worth? Thank you all in advance



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Thank you :)
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Someone has found a way to convex shape this coin with out destroying the strike, quite talented, probably if you weigh this coin it would be correct for a 1999 penny.
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Firstly - weigh the coin. My bet is that is has the normal weight of a 1-cent coin, or slightly lighter.

This is what is called a "Texas Penny". A Texas Penny gets the name from the "everything's bigger in Texas" saying... When you hammer a copper-plated between two pieces of leather, it flattens, expands and splits off the copper plating with surprising accuracy. They're tough on collectors who haven't seen them before, because they're so accurate. After all, they started their life as real coins...

You see these quite often with US 1 cent coins...

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Correct explanation, imo.



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Sunshine0274 get your coin weighed. copper plated zinc 1999 penny. should weigh 2.25 grams. if your penny weighs more. I know of a possible match for another denomation. it would be quit and error. if it is that blank. that was produced for another coin. weigh will tell if it is that blank. if you dont have scales. go to the post office. they have calibrated scales. they usually dont wont mind weighing small objects.
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Sunshine0274 the flakes of metal. that are still on the reverse. what ever you do dont touch those specks. your coin was slowly heated. that is why it is concaved. see the copper plating is very thin. when the metal was heated over an open flame. once the metal starts to move. it will run off quite easly. hope this helps. but one can see. the 2 pennies dont match in size. get the weigh for sure.
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your coin was slowly heated.


This coin was not heated to the point of melting away the copper...

Melting point of copper is 1,085 °C
Melting point of zinc is 419.5 °C

The fact that the copper is gone and zinc remains negates that possibility. See my comment above regarding "Texas Penny".
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In other words, just a damaged coin.
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Wow, thank you all for your help on this one. Once I get home from work I will weigh it for sure. Will give you an update this evening
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SPP-Ottawa thank you that crazy how that works. see if his zinc plank is the right weight. I see another metal possibly there. if it has the right weigh. in 1999 the Royal Canadian Mint produced so many of these blanks for a foreign country. when he posts the weight. this will verify. if it might be one of those blanks. the specks on the reverse would help to confirm this possibility. again thank SPP-Ottawa. if I had not watched this. I could not imagine this working so well.
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There is no way that can be a wrong planchet.
If it is larger, then how did it fit in the collar of the 1 cent.
Also how would the devices increase in size.

I agree with SPP with it being a Texas Penny or something similar.
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yes JimmyD I agree.but how would this blank be larger in diameter. I know jimmy you know your coins. as does SPP ottawa and alot more of the other members as well. myself I just like to learn. this coin is a good question. because it leads one to thinking. how would this be possible.
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The planchet started out the right size, but as SPP explained earlier,
the diameter was increased by being hammered.
This is not uncommon with US Cents. If I can find some photos,
I will post them.
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Found this photo of a "Texas Penny"
Note how the diameter has increased to the size of a Nickle and is missing the copper
plating which has fallen off due to the pounding and stretching of the coin.
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