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Hello all, Can someone please identify to me the KM#, if there is one, for this coin. I have searched the internet for a couple of hours to no avail. 4 Mariengroschen, 1672 IH Obverse lettering: 9.EINEN.R.THALER.1672 Reverse: GREF.LIPP.SIL.B.MUNZ  *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. ***
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Thanks for trying, Zac. I checked Numista for KM#82. The one they display looks similar, but not the same. Also, NGC shows KM#82 as being different from both MINE and Numista. NGC states that "varieties exist". Could this be why I cannot locate a picture of my exact coin?
Anyone?
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Close. KM 83.
Lippe-Detmold, 1672-IH 4 Mariengroschen (1/9 Thaler)
My SCGC (2nd Ed.) shows mintage of only 12,000, and this design was only used in 1672 (with several varieties.)
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@fplagge, I agree that varieties exist and any one picture of an example that you find on the interwebs may have small differences in the inscriptions. With that said, my 2014 version of Krause indicates that KR#82 has the date on the same side as the HS monogram. KM#83, on the other hand, has the date in the rev legend (as does yours). In my mind, this attribution is a better fit for your coin. Dang it adam you beat me by about 2 seconds. 
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Edited by Spence 09/15/2018 9:25 pm
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Sorry, Spence!! 
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Well, Gentlemen,
I feel a bit overwhelmed.
Just scanning the world for Germany KM#82 I have found at least five variations - NONE of which match my coin.
Paralyse's KM#83 comes just as close as any variety of KM#82 I have seen.
For a coin with a mintage of only 12,000 - 14,000, I am starting to believe that no two are alike. (Kidding, of course)
At any rate, unless someone can provide proof to the contrary, I will list my coin as KM#82 (with apologies to Zac).
Thanks to all for the comments.
I will keep a lookout here for any further input.
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Quote: I will list my coin as KM#82 (with apologies to Zac). Do you mean KM #83?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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No, I did mean KM#82
The apology was for my mistaken belief that Zac's suggestion of KM#82 was inaccurate.
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