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Edited by Willburton
09/22/2018 6:56 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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That is one strange cent, I'm still trying to wrap my head around how that could have been created. So far the closest I can come up with it is it struck through an off-center cent that was struck through a mid to late stage capped die. And I'm still not sure that would do it.
Edited by Conder101
09/23/2018 09:59 am
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My real problem with this one is there is no expanded elypsis at the indent. The depth of "strike" would have to push something outwards since there is do real change on the reverse. There is indication on that the reverse was on a flat metal surface(the pattern of smashing), and with the expanded Memorial I conjecture this to be a fabrication and not a real mint error. While it is possible, then the capped die (stretched Memorial) was impressed as the coin was on the collar or other flat surface away from the coin in chamber...but that doesn't make any sense either. See what Mike has to say, contact him.
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Seems PSD to me. What is the diameter of the "normal" part of the coin? The edge details of the die, concentric to the rim, are not part of the "second" strike. If the coin had truly been struck a second time by the dies forming the incuse anomaly, there would be edge details and devices visible. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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Petespocket, you saw what I saw as well. Here it is geometrically. Shapes/sizes don't lie, people do   The obverse strike was made by a smaller diameter object, suspect a cut down smashed coin. The reverse shows further pressure scored areas at least to the limit of red square, probably all, just the scrapes showed because of impact. Conclusion: A very sneaky and thought through job, Musta been Jojo's, Johnny isn't that good yet. Edited by Crazyb0
09/23/2018 11:48 am
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Looks like PMD to me. As Crazy pointed out, the sizes don't match. Quote:
Conclusion: A very sneaky and thought through job, Musta been Jojo's, Johnny isn't that good yet.  |
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Great images Crazyb0. I was thinking the coin used to make the fake impression was cut also, maybe with 1/2" (+-12mm) conduit and hammer or similar to be so uniform. The part that is still confusing to these eyeballs is the planter appears to be in relief (raised). It should be incuse if the impression was made from part of another Lincoln. Maybe the perp (always wanted to say that) poured some metal in a form over a Lincoln to get the proper details to be raised. Then used the poured piece to strike the whole coin. Or maybe I need to dial back my imagination a little. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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I'm sorry, but I respectfully disagree. It's a legitimate error coin. If it was a fabricated error coin, it wouldn't look like this (the details would be reversed and incused). I'll contact Mike Diamond, and see what he thinks. My vote is still on it being a 100% legitimate error coin.
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This is an in-collar partial brockage from an off-center cent. The "in-collar" aspect is more common among copper-alloy cents.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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No I think it is more than that. The image in the strike through appears to be raised not incuse and the image is enlarged, so the piece creating the strike through was itself an off-center brockage strike not just an off-center struck cent. I agree it was an in-collar strike.
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The image in the floor of the recess is clearly incuse. The degree of expansion seen is typical of such errors.
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