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Hello, Could anyone tell me the value of this framed coin, please?   |
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What is the diameter of the coin? Sovereigns are 22mm and half sovereigns 19mm.
If it is a half sovereign then it is rare. The coin yearbook 2018 does not give values for 1919 half sovereigns in any condition, saying they are all rare. Sovereigns have various mintmarks, and are priced at around £230 in Fine condition, increasing as the condition of the coin increases. This can only be a veryrough guide. You would need to speak to an expert to get a better idea.
Before getting too excited, you need to check it is a genuine coin. I am not skilled enough to help you there.
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09/24/2018 05:21 am
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Hi,
Thank you, so the diameter is about 23mm from what I measured, doesn't the fact that it's framed increase the value?
This was purchased in the 1960's in the US, not sure if it's genuine or not?
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actually the "framing" is called a bezel, and it actually could harm the value. the coin will need to be removed to be truly evaluated to what the condition is. I would not try this yourself. take it to a coin shop near you and see what they say first.
if this is a rare coin, it is quite possibly a fake purchased specifically to be made into this pendant.
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The Royal Mint did not produce a 1919 Half-Sovereign coin. It looks like 1913 from where I'm sitting.
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Almost certainly the bezel mounts will hurt the coin's value. Could we have a sharper image of the date, please?  to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
09/24/2018 3:46 pm
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The Royal Mint didn't make a 1919 half sovereign, but the Perth Mint did - mintage 56,786 with a mintmark of "P" on the reverse. The sovereign will have one of the following mintmarks : C - Ottawa M - Melbourne P - Perth S - Sydney Royal Mint didn't do one of these either, so the coin ought to have a mintmark. Please include the ground part under the horse when giving a close-up of the date.
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The coin itself looks like it has minor wear. Almost anything in a Bezel has minor damage due to the soldering or scratches from the clips. Taking it out of the bezel risks damaging the coin even more. However, the bezel itself is usually gold-14K to 18K . So unless the date is very special, it is likely only worth the melt value of the coin plus the bezel if it is gold.
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The date is most definitly "1919", not 1913. It has a tiny letters on the right side of the date, it looks like "E . P" or "B . P"? The last letter is definitly a "P", but I can't quite make out the first letter. As far as I can tell there's no mintmark:   Edited by CollarCoin
09/25/2018 10:26 am
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CollarCoin-
That is not a mint mark, those are the initials (B P) of the
Italian designer Benedetto Pistrucci.
The MM should be located in the bar above the date.
The lack of one indicates to me that this is not genuine.
I would have it checked out to see if there is any gold content.
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Correct typo
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09/25/2018 10:33 am
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I agree.
That close-up picture is useful. Not only is there no mintmark, but the overall surface is rough and the details lack crispness.
I suspect this is a copy of a coin made for the purpose of making into jewellery. It could still have some gold in it. Needs expert checking to be sure.
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I suspect this is a copy of a coin made for the purpose of making into jewellery. It could still have some gold in it. Needs expert checking to be sure. Correct. It's a "jewellery copy" of a sovereign, not a genuine sovereign. So keep it intact in the jewellery, as it will be worth only melt value if you take it apart. The gold traders of the Middle East have long made their own imitation sovereigns, to sell their gold in a form their customers are more familiar with. In the second half of the 20th century, prior to the civil war there in the 1980s, Lebanon was the main centre of these replica sovereigns. Nowadays, it's Dubai. The Lebanese ones are often indicated by their use of fictitious dates/mintmarks (such as this example). The Dubai ones are usually indicated by a small fineness countermark which the gold dealers there are legally obliged to put on their jewellery replicas. This coin doesn't have such a fineness mark, so I presume it's one of the earlier Lebanese versions. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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