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1859 Canadian One Cent

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Hi all,

I collected coins as a child. Now that I have young children myself, the interest returns. I had put all the coins in 2x2s some 40 years ago and never did any research on any of the non USA coins. Well in showing my children them, I decided to look into my foreign coins and low and behold I have a 1859 Canadian penny. Now I have never cleaned any of my coins, as a young teen I had read never to do this. I know everyone always admits this. You will see!

In all I have read on this coin, I see it has not been a topic of conversation for a year or longer now. I am working on finding a business locally that has an XRF. The real question I have to the community forum, is what % of ZINC will make this coin Valuable.
I have read that in the bronze: Tin is 4% and Zinc 1%. Brass gets you the winner at 10% or More? I agree you can not go by color, weight or diameter to determine if it is of value. Sorry to say I would never let the coin out of my sight, I think those that mail them somewhere are much braver individuals than me.
Thanks for the input.
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Sorry, accidentally sent with out the photos.

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Id say it has VF/EF sharpness but seems to suffer from environmental damage.
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not really interested, in doing it, but I see from other topics, that there is talk of putting coins in an acetone solution...comments please, maybe for some of my other coins
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I don't think acetone will help this one.
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No, acetone won't do much real positive for the coin... too much environmental damage. It is definitely not brass, since you can count on one hand the number found in the last 160 years of the 10 million minted. The "brass" '59's were caused by a mixing anomaly, making the planchets. They weren't made on purpose. There are nearly 40 different kinds of "brass", but to generally be considered brass, you need 15-33 parts Zinc with with 67-85 copper or thereabouts and many other minute amounts of other metals are found in the different alloys. Judging from the very short vine break at leaf 7, it was struck very early in the mintage year with one of the newer working dies made. As more working dies were made, the hub continued to get chipped away and the 7 gap grew, as did the one at 13, then another vine break at leaf 2 started and then grew.
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well, found an individual nearby who has a xrf, the board was correct...interesting how it varies from side to side, 89 copper, 8.5 tin, 1.5 zinc misc other, other side was 86.8 copper, 10.8 tin, 1.5 zinc, misc other

decided to try some acetone on it, and again, the board is right on.....no change

well, had been hoping for a get lucky coin, but not so

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The XRF is having a hard time getting through the surface coating of oxidations and pre-corrosions.
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okiecoiner - Thanks for that background!

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to the CCF!
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