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1836 Capped Bust Half Dime Lm-3 3 Over Inverted 3

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I have an 1836 capped bust half dollar DIME LM-3 3 OVER INVERTED 3(EF details but with damage) that I did not notice the reverse 5C being small rather than large. Is this normal? I thought all the LM3 coins were large 5C on reverse. Help me out here. I have attached pics.
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Jim
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Hi,

I am aware of an 1834 3/inverted 3 Half Dime as well as the 1836.

The coin you pictured is an 1836 and shows a repunched date with evidence of the underlying 8,and 3, and 6 plainly visible.

All the repunched digits on this coin are in their proper orientation.
Picture below where I outlined the repunched date on your coin.

Did you mean to post a picture of another coin? I might not have this one up on ebay until I was sure of the 3 over inverted 3 status.

Thanks,
Bill

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 Posted 07/18/2008  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jesbroken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Bill. Many people have viewed photos of this coin and all advised me that it was an inverted 3/3. You have saved me some embarassment and I thank you for that. I have made proper notations on my ebay auction.
Jim
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Hi Jim,

No Problem, Just trying to help.

Have a Great Day!

Bill
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 Posted 07/18/2008  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I understand a re-punched date from the glossary, but I'm fuzzy on what you mean by inverted. And is it just threes?
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Back in the day of punching digits into the dies either singly, in pairs, or with a three or four digit "gang punch", it was possible for a Mint technician to orient a punch upside down or in a position other than would be proper on a die.

They would then invert the punch to correctly add the detail to the die. The result would be a corrected digit or digits over another digit or set of digits that originally were punched in the wrong position. In this particular case, there are known die varieties on 1834 ans 1836 Half Dimes where at least the 3 in the date was punched into a die upside down and then repunched to correct the problem. Hence a 3 over inverted 3.

This coin is not such a coin.

It's late, did that make sense:-)

Have Fun,
Bill
PS: before people start looking for these on modern issues, this is something that stopped happening a long time ago. At this point, I can't pin an exact date on it but One of the last inverted date errors , datewise that I am aware of is an 1852 over an inverted date on a silver Three Cent piece. Another is an 1858 over inverted date Half Dime. Lastly, I am aware of an 1865 S, Ten Dollar Gold piece where the 186 was punched into a die upside down and then corrected.
There may be some others on other U.S. coins a little later than this, but that's about how far back you have to go.
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PS: before people start looking for these on modern issues, this is something that stopped happening a long time ago. At this point, I can't pin an exact date on it

The last one I can think of off the top of my head was that 1865 S Eagle you mentioned. As for the point after which they can't happen, between 1907 and 1909 the mnt switched from adding the date to the dies by hand to having the date as part of the master hub. (It is possible that for coins which weren't redesigned until after that time the date may have been punched into the master die.)
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