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1941 Wheatie - 2.7 G

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Newbie to coin errors/varieties. Not sure what type of error this is but any help would be greatly appreciated.

1941-Wheatie---2.7-G

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1941-Wheatie---2.7-G

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We're gonna need a bit clearer pics to fully determine anything. From the provided pics looks like a massive delamination error. http://www.error-ref.com/lamination...fter-strike/
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Sharper pics needed for sure.



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OK. I will take better pics. Thank you!
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That is quite interesting! My best guess currently is a pre-strike lamination peel or other planchet defect. The reverse metal was missing before the strike and that caused the corresponding weakness on the obverse. It's an error, but I agree that sharper pics would help to define/condirm it.
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Sharper pics will help. You might have an interesting error there.
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I took 2 more pics with my iPhone. I hope these are a little better.
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Looks to me like a planchet flaw. A low area in the planchet.
Looking at the edge photos, you can see how when it went through
the upsetting mill, there wasn't enough material to fully form the rim.
It also affected the forming on the Obverse.

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Thank you for the input!
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New images do show its condition a lot better. That said I'd like to scratch my head a bit more and ponder what I think I see. Thanks, Doug.
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OK. Thank you.
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Great find!
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Prior to blanking, I'm thinking something foreign may have been present during the coin stock being rolled to thickness. That or it rolled out super thin at that position.

The cavity is not showing signs of a lamination issue pre or post strike to me.

Seems to be some Blakesley effect showing opposite the area on the obverse at 12 o'clock. Indicating the lack of material was present during the upset process, which creates the proto rim.

Generally Blakesley effect is associated with blanking clips or material shortage. Thought I'd throw that in there.

One other thought I've read about concerns rolling or bonding stock plates together to create the big contiguous roll. The end of one plate gets pressed into the next, which can sometimes separate before, during or after blanking. Thanks, Doug.
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Thanks Doug! I just started reading "Official Price Guide to Mint Errors" by Alan Herbert. I am a proud rookie and I wouldn't want to annoy avid collectors of coin errors/varieties so if by asking what I should call it is a kind of dumb question, I apologize in advance.
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Most unusual, good eye!
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