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New Member
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This coin has been talked about on this forum before. http://goccf.com/t/195229&whichpage=1This coin will be coming with me to be showed around and maybe submitted for grading once we have a better handle on what it truly is.     normal coin 3.23 grams 1920 one sided coin 3.11 grams same time era So I guess my question would be if all the tail side and rim when removed weigh 0.12 grams With no trace of any side being there yet have the same thickness as any other coin from that time era.   SPP-Ottawa I hope to meet you there it is about time you see this coin plane tickets purchased months ago this is definitely happening |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I will probably be there Saturday, just for curiosity sake only reading the previous discussion on this coin, what kind of value was these dealers offering ?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I don't think that is a genuine error, the obverse has edges similar to a planchet, but the reverse has edges similar to a blank.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I will dwfinitely be in attendance, hopefully I can take a look.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
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A good number of friends and I used to go to the annual Torx shows, but we all stopped a number of years ago. It didn't seem to be the show that it used to be and it went downhill when the organizer of the show passed away and the son took over. Good luck on your coin ... I'm not an error guy so I can offer no opinion, but I don't know how the edge can be crimped on one side and not the other.
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New Member
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went out today and picked up a micrometer second one because my other is in my toolbox 40 mins away So I can see that it is off by approximately 4 hundreds of a millimeter   Specifications - 1 cent 1920 - Small Alloy: 95.5% copper, 3% tin and 1.5% zinc Weight: 3.24 grams Diameter : 19.05 mm Engraver: Obverse: Sir E.B. MacKennal, Reverse: W.H.J. Blakemore Designer: Obverse: Sir E.B. MacKennal, Reverse: Fred Lewis Edge: Smooth Magnetism: Nonmagnetic Die axis: #8593;#8593; so now I measured the thickness The sideless penny is off by 9 hundredths of a millimeter   |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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All I am saying is this coin looks like a sanded down coin as per others reasonings, even if at best this was some kind RCM test strike it lacks wow appeal because it looks altered. That is why I asked if some dealers have offered you good price for this, take it, your weight and smaller diameter sort of confirms most opinions on this coin |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Just a heads up on the Torex show, it's really slow the last few years, most of us go to meet fellow collectors and to pick up or participate in the auction. Toronto always has something to do and good luck
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New Member
Canada
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42,000.00 46,000.00 and 52,000.00 heritage auction house wants us to travel there so they can inspect RCM wants to see it and if they deem it a fake they will destroy it asap so they told 10 years ago that isn't happening |
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New Member
Canada
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John100 thank you my fiancee is coming up from New Mexico to meet on friday to monday and we are making this more of a vacation and time together than a coin show  |
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If the dealers are offering that kind of pricing I would take it now, the only Canadian errors that are over 20K are the 2000P caribou quarters and a few 1969 or 1970 quarter struck on a gold planchets sold by Heritage a few years ago
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Not a legitimate error. You have a reverse, with a fully struck rim. You are forgetting about the third die, the collar die, and you are not taking into account how these coins are struck on milled, rimmed, blanks. Think about this question - How can you possibly have a reverse (the hammer die) struck with a full rim, yet and the other side completely flat? You can't. In order to get a full rim on any coin, you need two things: 1. the Type 1 blank is milled into a Type 2 planchet 2. the collar die Both MUST occur to create a full rim, otherwise you end up with three possible errors, that do NOT look like your coin: 1. uniface strike with a Type 2 rim on the blank side (when two blanks are struck together) 2. a normal strike made on a Type 1 blank (the rim is poorly developed) 3. a centred broad strike with no rim on either side. I sold errors at large coin shows and I had some rare ones... I have some incredible errors, but outside of the mint shenanigans that happened from 1969-1971, real legit errors do not command a huge value in Canada. Here are some spectacular errors, note the hammer prices: https://www.moorecoins.com/50-CENTS...-3_i19827648 https://www.moorecoins.com/1-DOLLAR-1984_i19827666https://www.moorecoins.com/2-DOLLAR...00_i19827671"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Oh, I will NOT be at Torex... you will NEVER see me at any Torex...
(It will cost you a beer, or two, if you ever really want to know why)...
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