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recently acquired this token and would appreciate any information available. Thank you.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I'm certainly no expert on Bust and Harp Tokens
but I will tell what little I know and perhaps one
of our Token experts can add to it.
Yours appears to me as a genuine token. There were many
imitations of these produced.
They were originally produced in 1835 with that date on them.
Then they antedated the dies to read 1820, first by overprinting
the 1835 date and then producing a non-overdated die for the final production.
Yours sure looks like to be the overdated version.
If it is, it could be fairly valuable.
Do you mind me asking what you paid for it?
Edited by JimmyD
11/08/2018 4:25 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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This appears to be genuine. Can't see any red flags from the photo...
Edited to removed initial unbridled enthusiasm.
Edited by NumisCat
11/08/2018 9:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have some reservations about this piece (I hope for pawnbroker and the community as a whole that I am wrong)
some very clear pictures of the date would do wonders,
IF legit you are $10,000+ richer.
Please post clear, focused, enlarged photos of the date.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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To the Forum. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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New Member
 United States
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Just sent the token out to NGC to be graded and slabbed. Anxiously awaiting what they have to say about it.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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pawnbroker-
Be sure to let us know the results either way.
This could be an interesting piece to study.
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Bedrock of the Community
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United States
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Token was sent to NGC for grading and authentication. Was shipped back to me on Monday . Anticipate receiving it on Thursday. It came back as a grade of VF20 BN. Quite happy with the grading.
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Valued Member
Canada
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That is a spectacular find. Congratulations.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Congratulations!!
There are very few of those known to exist.
Nice when someone in the CCF has a find like that.
FYI-
The book price on that coin in VF is $12,000 CDN.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Speechless  , so I typed it and put a Smiley. Quote from Charlton 7th Edition token catalogue. "In 1825 a halfpenny token was struck in Great Britain on Canadian order. It was learned that currency regulations enacted in 1825 forbade the further importation of private tokens into Canada. However, nothing in the regulations interfered with importing tokens dated before 1825." and they simply used a zero punch. Easy Peasy. |
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Token was sent to NGC for grading and authentication. Was shipped back to me on Monday . Anticipate receiving it on Thursday. It came back as a grade of VF20 BN. Quite happy with the grading. Maybe your token is authentic, I couldn't confirm. However, NGC is not at all qualified for the evaluation of Canadian colonial tokens. I have seen so many minor and major mistakes from them over the years regarding these coins, that their opinion on your token is in no way conclusive. You should have chosen a Canadian company (CCCS/ICCS). Their expertise has more weight with collectors of this type of coin. I'm sorry if my English isn't perfect... I'm learning a little more every day.
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11/30/2018 5:44 pm
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*NGC guarantees the authenticity of the items they certify. They have a knowledgeable staff of experts. It is not a one-man operation. Plus, at least one of the companies you referred the OP to has been found within the past two years to have certified more than one fake Canadian coin. In one instance the mistake was blatant. As far as I know, those companies do not provide any sort of guarantee, but I could be wrong.
While NGC (and all other grading companies) are known to make mistakes with respect to variety attribution, I think the OP can rest assured the coin is the real deal. Also, the pictures provided do not raise any red flags. No point in being an alarmist or disparaging people for choosing that particular service.
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11/30/2018 9:37 pm
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